Re: abbreviations

From: Julian Lord <julian.lord_at_...>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:06:50 +0200


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Matthew :

> I have come to believe that this list is becoming too exclusive. That
> we're not allowing so-called 'outsiders' access or at least that entry
> is being made, unwittingly, difficult.
> 
> To what am I referring? Well, it's the common use of encoded
> abbreviations. For example: YGMV, RW, UW etc.

Well, IMO Glorantha-List Abbreviations (GLAs) are A Good Thing to foster YGMV & MGF in HW/HQ and Gloranthan RPGing, urbi et orbi.

The GLAs are actually a marvellous invention :

"Also, I know that people could ask what is meant but for those with 56k modems it means more up/downloading"

Contrariwise, 56k modem-people downloading pro-GLA msgs : doubleplushappy 2 sav valuable DL � & d.

Double-NP-wise.

> I know all the reasons *for* using these codes but they are just that > - *codes* -

Aaaaaaah, but no you're mistaken IMO. The main function of esoteric codes in language is to distinguish between "us" and "them" : Get with the programme, or be one of them <yuck!>

There is no third possibility.

Mucho linguistic theory to back me up : but your non-abbrv. request smells of straw humanity, IMO. No linguistic theory satisfaction forthcoming.? Ouch.

 > 1. Put a translation of abbreviations at the end of your post

YRWMV > I know both of these require some effort but not very much really. To > do it right, in my opinion, we should do both.

Right : so every non-lurking list member should individually and manually make sure of no abbreviations in e-mails, and that's "not much effort" ?? YMMV

> BTW (!) we have to decide what to do with webspeke ones like BTW, > FWIW, IMO etc.

Not broken, no fixing needed.

> There have been quite a few occasions where I have stopped reading a > post out of annoyance

YLzns, not aEs'prblm : hint : abbreviations are fun !!! :-)

chrs,

JL

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<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Matthew :</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> I have come
to believe that this list is becoming too exclusive. That</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> we're not
allowing so-called 'outsiders' access or at least that entry</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> is being made,
unwittingly, difficult.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> To what am
I referring? Well, it's the common use of encoded</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> abbreviations.
For example: YGMV, RW, UW etc.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Well, IMO Glorantha-List Abbreviations
(GLAs) are A Good Thing to
foster YGMV & MGF in HW/HQ and Gloranthan RPGing, urbi et orbi.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">The GLAs are actually a marvellous
invention :</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">"</span></font><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:14pt">Also, I know that people could ask what is meant but</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">for those with
56k modems it means more up/downloading</span></font><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">"</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Contrariwise, 56k modem-people
downloading pro-GLA msgs :
doubleplushappy 2 sav valuable DL &pound; & d.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Double-NP-wise.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> I know all
the reasons *for* using these codes but they are just that</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> - *codes*
-</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Aaaaaaah, but no you're mistaken
IMO. The main function of esoteric
codes in language is to distinguish between "us" and "them" : Get with the programme, or be one of them <yuck!></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">There is no third possibility.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Mucho linguistic theory to back
me up : but your non-abbrv. request
smells of straw humanity, IMO. No linguistic theory satisfaction forthcoming.? Ouch.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt"> > 1. Put a
translation of abbreviations at the end of your post</span></font></div>
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</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">YRWMV</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> I know both
of these require some effort but not very much really. To</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> do it right,
in my opinion, we should do both.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Right : so every non-lurking list
member should individually and
manually make sure of no abbreviations in e-mails, and that's "not much effort" ?? &nbsp;YMMV</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> BTW (!) we
have to decide what to do with webspeke ones like BTW,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> FWIW, IMO
etc. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">Not broken, no fixing needed.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> There have
been quite a few occasions where I have stopped reading a</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:14pt">> post out of
annoyance</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">YLzns, not aEs'prblm : hint : abbreviations
are fun !!! :-)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">chrs,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Garamond"><span style="font-size:14pt">JL</span></font></div>
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