Re: Digest Number 1655

From: Joerg Baumgartner <joe_at_...>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:52:17 +0200 (CEST)

Jeff replying to me:
> Without taking any position on whether the horizontal distances in
> Glorantha are too short, I've got a few quibbles with you about the
> vertical distances.

> My own map of west Sartar, uncanonical as it is, has Clearwine at
> about 2000 feet above sea level and the Upland Marsh at about 1250
> feet above sea level - not the 3000-4500 foot elevation that you
> have it. For what it is worth, I think the Pharoah's Marsh is maybe
> some 500-750 feet above sea level.

You do realize that in this case, the hill of Clearwine would be 1000 feet below the Shadow Plateau at its lowest, or in other words, that from Shadow Plateau you can see whether Wilmskirk is burning or not.

I'm willing to divide my heights by two, but that doesn't remove any of my arguments about river travel in the south, and hardly any in the north.

>>Following the old bed of the Creek-Stream River, I found this to be
>>on a distance of about 30-40 miles.
>> In other words: the land rises about 10 metres for every mile you
>> travel on the river.

> Or in my case about 5 or 6 metres for every mile.

Still means not navigable, even if we triple the distance.

>> These distances _are_ extremely short. The Oslir has maybe 500

> miles

>> to descend from Furthest to the Thunder Delta, which gives it an
>> average slope of 2 metres per mile - ten times that of the Rhine at
>> Bacharach. You could probably surf down the Creekstream River...

> I think Furthest is maybe only about 1000 feet above sea level
> (maybe less), which gives it an average slope of 1 foot per mile.

In Peloria we have a single height datum given in Griffin Mountain: roughly 900 metres (2800 feet) for the lands around the Elf Sea. The land rises from there to Holay. Sure, it does drop again towards the Oslir River, but 1800 feet?

Like Graham, I'm mostly concerned about consistence. I'd like to have a lozenge raster usable for data reference, so I could combine maps with clickable information regardless which scale I view it at.

Quite a few of these issues are up to the great narrator's need, of course: Is the Shadow Plateau supposed to be above the waves when the Uzhim project hits the Pool? Dagori Inkarth? Blue Moon Plateau? Most of Sartar and Prax?