Effects of concentrating magic on religious life?

From: Andrew Solovay <asolovay_at_...>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:54:47 -0800


The whole "devotees vs. initiates" thing has got me wondering--If you concentrate magic, just what effect does that have on your ability to participate in worship of beings from other otherworlds? Certainly you're going to be limited in what *benefits* you could get from that worship--a concentrated Theist can't get charms from the Creek. But can he participate at all?

Take the following case: A Heortling clan has its annual holiday offering worship to the local river-spirit, who once saved the clan by drowning some broos fording the river to attack. Note that this is animist worship, not (misapplied) theistic worship of a spirit. Clan member Hrothgar (an Orlanth Thunderous devotee) is a concentrated theist. I can think of a few possibilities:

(In any of the cases, he would benefit indirectly from the benefits that go to the community. When the river provides fish, even the theists can eat it at the feast! But he's not going to get direct, personal benefits from the spirit.)

This sort of ties into the question of just how useless/fanatical devotees are. If a devotee can't participate *at all* in any kind of ritual that doesn't match his otherworld, that will cut him off from a lot of community life. Even the thoroughly theistic Heortlings have their Flesh Man talents, and might end up with any number of holidays and customs propitiating the local essences and spirits. And of course, a Kolating devotee is going to be well and truly cut off, since he can't participate in the overwhelming majority of his community's religious life.

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