Re: Celibate Vingans?

From: Julian Lord <julian.lord_at_...>
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:06:05 +0100


Peter :

> Considering that Vinga is a storm cult and not a death cult, I
> find the idea of a Vingan giving up her fertility to be misplaced.

Seconded.

Mikko :

> I think the point is that they get to live the Orlanth Adventurous style
> Tomboy life, and have casual sex without preagnancy.

I think that was the point, but I personally dislike it.

Well, I dislike it as a written rule, anyway. Female adventurers in many RPG campaigns seem to have some sort of Campaign Protection device from their GM.

OTOH in a PDP-style game, children might be a blessing more than a curse.

Anyway, the rules in TR for shifting from one cult to another (and back again, if this is PC Vingans we're discussing) can surely handle any actual situation and/or punctual need ?

> A bit hard to live
> the warriors life and have kids, I think.

But Vingans aren't pure warriors : that's those Humakt chaps !

The Vingans can join any of the other normal Orlanth subcults, I believe, even the non-combat ones.

I believe that there are many, many differents kinds of Vingan ...

And : Fathers have kids too !

A Vingan can have kids and still be in the fyrd.

Plus the Eninta cult can help a Vingan warrior with her infants.

> The only real alternative is
> the Yelornan way of "remaining pure" *brrr*, and I don't really see the
> orlanthi lasses wanting to go that route.

Prudishness is a far more realistic solution ; or ... honour ? :-)

I really don't think that Vingans should be tied down by any kind of written celibacy / infertility rule.

They're far more interesting without, IMO.

> They aren't giving away their fertility. They are deciding not to have
> children _yet_.

Yes : a moral choice. Much better.

Although there are always those Vingans who take the Henna'ed Way for the *sake* of their children ...

Julian Lord

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