Re: atheists in Glorantha; Runegate

From: David Dunham <david_at_...>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:21:08 -0700


Gareth

> > Then a soulless Meldek comes along and says your god isn't really a
> > god. Really annoying, and even though he has no god at all, he isn't
> > struck down by lightning. How does he do it? What secret protection
> > does he have?
>
>OK. The term Meldek does not ring any immediate bells, but:

It's in King of Sartar at least, a term for sorcerers. I wouldn't normally revert to obscure jargon, but I wanted something to parallel Lunar.

>a) why is he "soulless" when the Lunar is not?

Because he's a sorcerer.

>b) The claim that orlanth is "not really" a god can be easily falsified by
>making orlanth act like a god - i.e. repsond to the appeals of worshippers

The sorcerer's slave responds when he's given orders, too. This proves nothing of Orlanth's divinity.

Besides, the correct response is to call on Orlanth to smite the sorcerer :-)

>c) I would not expect him to be struck by lightning - what he is saying is
>no threat to the manifest truth of my faith. But presumably they are
>protected by this insible god

If I, the Heortling, blaspheme against Orlanth, I very much run the risk of being struck down by Orlanth (whether by lightning or less direct agents of retribution).

This sorcerer has no gods to protect him, yet nothing happens to him. (And make him a Brithini if you like, since they're among the most atheistic Gloranthans.) Clearly he's not as powerful as even a Lunar god, so something sneaky is going on. Thus, the sorcerer is vaguely sinister, as I believe Nick said.

Michael

>Finally, on which clan's tula does Runegate (the town and the fort)
>actually sit? I suspect that it is the Lonisi, and later the Taraling,
>but cannot say for certain.

I don't know if it's there, but I do know there are quite a few references to Runegate on my web site -- check the Search function.

David Dunham dunham_at_...
Glorantha/HW/RQ page: http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein

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