to me:
> > So, you could have sorcerous Ulerians, Theist Ulerians,
> > and Animist Ulerians (possibly worshipping Her under different
> > names and not acknowledging that Uleria=their Goddess/Saint/
> > Essence/ Spirit/whatever).
>
> If they don't acknowledge the connection, at what point does she
> become a seperate entity (of whatever type)
Pretty far apart. After all, the folowers of Urox and Storm Bull (and St. Turos?) do not (as I understand it) recognize each other as fellow worshippers until they visit the Eternal Battle. No doubt they find each other's company congenial, but Storm Bull is a Great Spirit and Urx is a God, after all.... Of course, this gets back to the "does the worship shape the god or the other way around" argument....
He says
to Peter Metcalfe:
>> I've been told second-hand that Uleria should be considered
>> a mystic entity.
> I like Peter Larsens theory that she is defiant, on the basis that
> she pre-dates the idea of "seperate" worlds...
I don't disagree with Mr. Metcalfe at all; I think Uleria is a trancendental being, and Her "proper" worship is Mystic. However, unenlightened interaction with Her is possible -- taking the form of animism, sorcery, and theism. In a way, they would be "misapplied" worship of a trancendent being, but Uleria is "root" enough to actually provide benefits. So She isn't defiant in the same sense as Storm Bull, but She might act like it in game terms.
As to whether Ulerian Mysticism would be Orthodox or Manifest -- I thought that the goal would be to refine the world to Love, gradually leaving everything else behind. Mr. Metcalfe's interpretation, with the Mystic grappling (ahem) with the World is good, too. Take your pick, or perhaps there are several paths to Uleria. "First there is Love; then there is no Love; then there is."
Peter Larsen
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