Hi Mick.
Are you able to play today?
I finish work at about 1830hrs. The War Games are on if you want to come
down early and have a look around. I hear there is some football thing on
today??
From: "Mick Rowe" <Mick.Rowe_at_...>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:56 PM
>There is always another way.
>If we've lost a lot of sheep, wouldn't good orlanthi just raid a
neighbouring clan and steal >their sheep.
I was wondering if you would take pre-emptive action or just wait for things to happen. Hopefully you will help to increase the cattle holding of the White Rams
>Clans of Kerofinela (The exiles)
>I originally wrote up the exiles to have 12 tribes based on the Sartar
model.
>But the generally accepted view (ie. the published stuff) says that tarsh
tribes are very >different to their Sartarite brethren. Unspoken Word states
that the lunars see the exiles >as one tribe with 4 clans. Thus i've got to
do a lot of rationalising to get my stuff to fit. aka. >its taking longer
than i thought.
>(I'm also trying to cater for your ideas about the future of your tribes)
My Tribe of Ilmore will take a pounding over the coming years. The Lunars will certainly influence it but when the bronze runs out in the Vrok Hills the whole structure of the tribe will implode!! Kinstrife and Clan War will take its toll. The question is will the White Rams survive??
>One bit that i'm not sure about is how influential you think the lunars are
in your clans in >1574. the lunars don't invade until 1602. also there's no
elmal/yelmalio schism until after >the invasion. I have no preconceived
ideas about this so prompt me.
I think that the Lunars will be busy trying to subdue the Tarsh Exiles, they can not pass by Kero Finn to strike at Sartar without leaving their flank open to attack by the Exiles. The battle of Grizzly Peak isn't until 1582 when the last big cities of Tarsh are captured by the Lunars. After that the Lunars move on to put Alda-Chur under seige. 1602 they attack Runegate Fort by going through Dragons Eye, crossing the River south of Dwarf Ford (at Redhall??). They went through Ilmore lands causing much damage as they went?
>Elder Secrets
>There is another book, so I probably did give you the wrong one.
Nevermind we all make mistakes! ;-)
Can you bring the other one?
>Redhall
>I don't think it truly existed, as such, before the Lunars - just a
ferryman's house, his ferry >and a shrine to the river god. What made the
Lunars decide to build their fort there is >indeed an interesting question.
>Pragmatically, its the safest route between Tarsh and Sartar. The Northern
route passes >through Snake Pipe Hollow and therefore chaos. The Southern
Route passes through >exile territory and therefore trouble. Tarsh War
implies the lunars took this route regularly.
>Mythologicially, the Lunars may have have found some old Lunar spirit or
magic in the >locale. Personally, I don't know what this is, but the idea
might be worth developing.
Yes very good. They would need a strong beach head by the River prior to sending their whole army over it. They wouldn't want to lose it by some Engizi River Wash or the like.
>c. 1574
>Another question that got to be asked is what exactly was happening in
Sartar and Tarsh >during these years. Off hand I don't know, but its
important not to isolate the tribes from >the outside world. By this, I mean
their destruction does not have to be due to one thing, >it could be the
accumulation of many factors.
I had envisioned that alot of different reasons would destroy some of the clans of the Ilmorei, the same would happen to the Tarsh Exiles. Remember that the city of Alone (and its surrounding area?) was founded after Grizzly Peak by the Tarsh Exiles. Some of the clans would have left to go to a new safer home.
>For instance, take the impending doom of Afghanistan - on the surface its
going to get >wiped out by the Yanks and Brits because they house
terrorists.
>The question really is how did thet get into this position. They were good
Orlanthi who >united against the Lunar Empire (Russians) and sent them
packing.
>To do this they took money and arms from the friends (CIA). Once the evil
had gone and >there was no-one to fight so the tribes began to bicker and
fight between themselves. >Civil war ensued and the fundementalists rose to
power. Sartarite killed Sartarite. There >was kinstrife. Daga and Malia were
delighted with this turn of events. They turned his >faces towards these
lands. No rain fell. Drought occurred. Disease erupted. Millions >starved,
but civil war continued and the fundementalist grew harsher and stronger.
They >began to worship the harsh codes and harsher gods (The gor gods of
glorantha), and >brain washed themselves so much that when one group
achieved victory their old gods >and friends were unrecognisable.
>Those who helped get rid of the Lunars were their enemies, because they
ways were >liberal. Their new rules turned the people into becoming suicide
bombers against their >richer neighbours. With the planes crash their
liberal friends said no more it is time you >died.
Excellent!!! :>)
>Quote from Greg Stafford about the Kingdom of War.
>"The only way to defeat the Kingdom of War is to become the Kingdom of War"
Or run away as fast as you can!
>Cheers,
>Mick
Cheers,
DARRAN SIMS.
darransims_at_...
darransims_at_...
"And the will therein lieth, which dieth not.
Who knoweth the mysteries of the will, with its vigour?
For God is but a great will pervading all things by
nature of its intentness. Man doth not yield himself
to the angels, nor unto death utterly,
save only through the weakness of his feeble will."
- Joseph Glanvill.
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