RE: [ImmoderateHeroQuest] Re: Putting the 'Anal' into Analogies

From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_drFp4wtC_O4vw12GhUlJ987B19J1RuNHIdIwQagKoMJ9HTQnjX9kgMhXzXYfP>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:35:51 -0000


> Daniel:
> > > Similar military, alot more similar than Lunars and Romans.
>
> Jane:
> > Your Lunars have weaponry of pike&shot and later period?
> Gunpowder? Serious
> > artillery? I know YGWV, but....
>
> Jane, you technological determinist, you! :)

For these purposes, yes. Analogy. Not being used to determine social structure of the Lunar Army at all, this is the 10-second view from the outside.
"This guy who's turned up to take my cows as "tax", what's he look like? "Like a Roman soldier, only with Moon runes on." That picture doesn't tell us the interesting history of his regiment. It tells us he's got heavy armour, a big shield, and a short sword. Oh, and a lot of mates to back him up who are used to working in formation. So yes, technology - sword, not rifle.  

> I understand that technology is a factor in any continuum of
> analysis of a given military, but many social factors are pretty
> robust and transferable.

Sure, but now we're getting down to serious analysis, not the 10-second intro. Wrong list! :)

> For example, even putting the Garrison and Satrapal forces aside,
> the Lunar Army is a glorious and polyglot mix of forces.

Which is another reason why I think of it as Roman.

> If you want to look at the development of these factors, of
> individual regimental cultus, of military patronage and
> proprietorship, of territorial recruitment and its consequences, of
> the often curious mix and competition of public and private military
> enterprise, and of how a nascent 'standing army' might operate in a
> limited fiscal and bureaucratic system, then I can't think to hand
> of a better period that illustrates this than the late medieval and
> early modern. Add/mix in/replace with regimental cults, myths and
> magic to the concept, and you're off.

Sure, add all that in as well, once you're looking deeper. As we've said elsewhere, just one cliché/source is not going to be enough. But for the first-glance look at ana approaching enemy, "Roman" is the closest well-known image I can think of.            

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