I thought Dar was clan level, Rex was tribal level?
I think currently the structure of the cult of Orlanth in Thunder
Rebels is broken, and doesn't do a very good job of representing some
of the stuff that is in the canon. Queen Beti for example. Where on
earth does she get her clan management magic from without a bit of a
fudge.
I agree that there are 4 basic aspects; warrior/farmer/thunderer/king
I would suggest that each subcult is interchangeable with each of
those aspects. I don't like the fact that currently Starkval is in
Allfather (rightly) but which hinders his fighting magic.
At least this means that not all the kings of all the tribes worship
the same deities. IE, all Orlanth Rex or Dar via Allfather.
None of this has been much of an issue in games I have run so I have
not been inclined to change it. In my campaign we had a few Orlanth
Adventurous guys (and a Vingan), a LM scholar, a Helering and a
Donandari.
Regards
Rob
- In ImmoderateGloranthaQuest_at_yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Richard"
<richaje_at_...> wrote:
>
> > Hang on, I'm confused. I thought only men could worship Orlanth,
with
> > Vingans as the exception that lets women have access to his magic.
> Why would
> > Orlanth Rex be different? Women have Orendana the Queen to
follow, after
> > all.
>
> That's a tribal formation thing. Tribal leaders either have Orlanth
> or Ernalda as their patron. For example, the Hendrikings were
always
> Orlanth Dar kings, even when the actual king was an Ernaldan. Same
> thing about the Colymar - they are always Orlanth Rex.
>
> Same thing for the Orendanae - an Esrolian tribe is ruled through
> Orendana. If a man gets acclaimed ruler of that tribe, it is a new
> tribe (and the Grandmothers Council will make sure it is crushed).
>
> Anybody can become an Orlanth Dar or Rex initiate if they are
> acclaimed the ruler of their clan or tribe and they make the
> sacrifices and such to Orlanth the King. Humakti, Ernaldans,
> Uroxings, Issaries, whoever.
>
> Besides, Vinga is not a Queen. If I was revising things, I'd go
back
> to having Orlanth be Warrior, Farmer, King and Thunderer and have
> Vinga access all the Warrior subcults. That would also minimize the
> Allfather problem, which is the substantive issue that triggers this
> debate (although this debate is hardly about that anymore).
>
> Jeff
>