Re: In Defence Of A Goddess

From: jorganos <joe_at_bvOZQe68mZAhyCiQ_j_qr9Y_Xo6DY1rpfg5tMDSe7CnzgHWzZ2SLfxbSUSppz_uTCCvpokhP>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:56:22 -0000


Simon Phipp:
>> Yelornans have a celibacy Geas for some cultists, Unicorn Riders 
>> have to be celibate virgins and I think the Star Maidens have to be 
>> Maidens, i.e. virgins. I always assumed that the celibacy geas did 
>> not include lesbianism and so a lot of Yelornans were lesbians.

<oswaldtrimling_at_...> wrote:
> I figure that, being of Dara Happan origin, when they say 'celibate'
> they bloody well mean it.

Except Yelornans aren't of Dara Happan origin. Ralian, possibly Sairdite, or native Praxian/Genert's Garden, but not DHan.

> Sure, Heortling and Praxian blokes may assume that, because
> they're not shagging *them* they must be doing it
> with each other, but I that's not true IMG.

I'd agree with that, though - if they want to play for fun, there's always their mounts, equipped with all kinds of maleness. The entire "unicorn riding" idea is a lot of inappropriate flirtation.

>> Babeester Gori used to be able to have sex, but can't now. Maran >> gori weren't allowed to have sex but can now.

Wrong. Maran always was the bad mother, and not through parthenogenesis. That she has no mythical offspring (except the quakebeasts) might be because she sacrificed them?

>> Yelmalio has celibacy geases and, once again, I am not sure if that 
>> applies to homosexual sex - I'd take the same view as above that it 
>> applies to heterosexual sex and that explains a lot about the 
>> Yelmalian cult.

> Again, DH background. When they say 'no shagging', they mean it.

What about boy-molesting?

> The Gor types are mythically infertile.

Are they? I see the cultural role of Babeester as the traumatized woman hitting back, rather than some gruesome virgin defender.

> They'd be opposed to having
> sex because it's a procreative act.

How do Marani get their kids for sacrifice then?

> If it doesn't resemble the
> procreative act, it may be OK. Yelmalio and Yelorna, being DH in
> origin, are opposed to sex, IMO, because it's just too enjoyable!

Funny, that Yelmalio statement.

The original cult was Daysenerus. Or was it Daysenera? One of the ambiguous "sons" of Yelm (like Verithurus(a)). Promoted under Nysalor, another not-so-male entity.

> It mires you in the earth, and all that squelchy, yucky stuff.

If you do it with your wife (or other earth beings). Aetherial companionship with harmonious thoughts... (add other excusatory bullshit here) ... instructing future lance bearers ...

http://www.toppoint.de/%7Ejoe/yelmalian.jpg

> YGWV... if that's not conciliatory to mention here :p

Depends on what you mean by that acronym.

Yuppie Gender-restricted Wussy Vingans?

> Damn... am I even allowed to say 'conciliatory', or does that make
> me sound too intellectual for this list? Hmm...

Huh?

for sortaste helvetes feitaste faen,

Joerg            

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