RE: Re: Terror in war

From: Serabian, Malcolm <malcolm.serabian_at_-AxjiF6MFE56QpSyhl5BU3HEAj8efYO54GRIniJiLzzz5k_Bo636MZ9knGo>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:03:54 -0400


Sorry to poke my lurker head into this ongoing debate, but I can't restrain myself any longer!

>That's a very strong reaction (but perhaps one that is sympomatic of
>the times). Does the idea that the Lunar army destroys tribe and
>clan, crucifies men, women and children by the hundreds and thousands,
>or sells them into slavery bother you?

Yes - that's why Lunars are always villains in my campaigns.

>Does the idea that Sartarites sell out their own tribesmen when the
Lunar >army employs the Crimson Bat bother you?

Yes - it does. Anyone who did that would not be a hero in my mind.

>Does the idea that the ducks of the Upland Marsh may have cut a deal
with >an undead lich bother you?

>> Oh, I disagree - it may not be your intent, but it's absolutely the
>> effect, from my personal perspective. At the best, its making her out
>> to be an anti-hero, who the player heroes should be opposing. I'd
hate
>> to play in any game where player heroes have the attitude 'well, I
>> don't like it, but it has to be done', towards this sort of thing.
>> IMO, being heroes is all about not accepting that kind of thinking.

>Really? So what does that make Achilles, Odysseus, Olaf Trygvasson,
>Harald Hardrada, Judas Macabbeas, Romulus, or Sigurd Dragonkiller?
>All of these heroes do some pretty downright nasty deeds - and all of
>them embrace that sort of thinking.

Jeff, you may certainly list hundreds, and thousands of "heroes" from myth, literature, and history who have killed helpless men, women, children, and babies. That is irrelevant to the fact I do not want to play a game that features such characters as PCs or as friends and leaders of my PCs, or as Heroes my PCs should look up to and emulate. Villains may commit those acts, but certainly not heroes in my limited modern 21st century mind.

Malcolm



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