From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.imagiconline.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V2 #137 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Friday, August 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 137 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks [RQ-RULES] Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my! Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks Re: Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI [RQ-RULES] Enchantments on your body [RQ-RULES] DMD - Duskur for RQ/Greyhawk [RQ-RULES] Death by DI RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Aug 99 08:35:30 +0000 From: mike bate Subject: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI > In my last game, I've lost a long time character. He had only 9 POW left (because of Krarshtides :-)), and he made a DI to save two friends lifes. He rolled a 9. If I reckon well, if your POW is 0, you never existed, and never will, and nobody remembers you. > Is this right? Is there a way to get him back to life? Is a HeroQuest a way to save him? Where is his soul? > Manu Sorry, Manu. If your Pow = 0, then your soul dies, but the memory of you remains. That can only be destroyed by the power of Chaos 'eating' or unmaking your soul. This is one of those deaths that cannot be fixed without twisting the written rules. The referee could agree that your soul has some fractional or residual Power that keeps it from completely disappearing (like a grass spirit). Then, is you have a descendent, they could use the Daka Fal spell to Gift Pow to an ancestor. This would still not bring you back into the game as an adventurer, but your spirit could be bound and nursed back to strength, so plan to move on to a new character for a long time. Bob Stancliff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RFC822 header - ----------------------------------- RECEIVED: from SF_Database by POP_Mailbox_-1276410482 ; 27 AUG 99 00:00:14 UT Received: by orpheus (mbox jsatch) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Aug 27 00:00:10 1999) X-From_: daemon Thu Aug 26 21:25:33 1999 Received: from lists.imagiconline.com (lists.imagiconline.com [204.85.32.11]) by orpheus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15151 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:25:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA35576; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com) Received: by lists.imagiconline.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:40 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA35567 for runequest-rules-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by lists.imagiconline.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA35560 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from stanclif@ufl.edu) Received: from ufl.edu (sp17.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.17]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id QAA94238 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:36 -0400 Received: from vpnet (dp051230.shands.ufl.edu [10.227.51.230]) by ufl.edu (8.9.0/8.9.1/2.3.1) with ESMTP id QAA23550 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199908262013.QAA23550@ufl.edu> From: "Bob Stancliff" To: Subject: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:39 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:23:44 -0600 From: "Emmanuel Ponette" Subject: Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Do you think that if the character receive enough POW through Gift POW of Daka Fal, he can be resurected? How can I determine if someone is resurectable or not. Manu >>> "Bob Stancliff" 08/26 10:13 >>> > In my last game, I've lost a long time character. He had only 9 POW left (because of Krarshtides :-)), and he made a DI to save two friends lifes. He rolled a 9. If I reckon well, if your POW is 0, you never existed, and never will, and nobody remembers you. > Is this right? Is there a way to get him back to life? Is a HeroQuest a way to save him? Where is his soul? > Manu Sorry, Manu. If your Pow = 0, then your soul dies, but the memory of you remains. That can only be destroyed by the power of Chaos 'eating' or unmaking your soul. This is one of those deaths that cannot be fixed without twisting the written rules. The referee could agree that your soul has some fractional or residual Power that keeps it from completely disappearing (like a grass spirit). Then, is you have a descendent, they could use the Daka Fal spell to Gift Pow to an ancestor. This would still not bring you back into the game as an adventurer, but your spirit could be bound and nursed back to strength, so plan to move on to a new character for a long time. Bob Stancliff *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: simon_hibbs@lycosmail.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks German Cantabrana Gonzalez : >Yes I think so, but... Can parry a human (with just 2 actions) the three >atacks of an animal? or he must eat the last strike free? .... >A tiger, then, can kill everybody. Nobody (except Wachaza figther) can parry >its last attacks. I think that's very much over-stating the case. There are a number of tactics that a human can use to defeat them, given the propper equipment and discipline. First, wear armour. Second, reserve your parry or dodge for the animal's most dangerous attack and rely on armour to protect you from their weaker blows. Humans also get magic, so use magical protection or damage resistance spells if available. In many cases this alone can allow you to shrug off most of the animal's blows. Finaly, just because you don't defend doen't mean the animal will necesserily hit you. There's also a nice tactic that Phil came up with for fighting Scorpion Men. Don't make an atack. Simply parry both their attacks on you. The stinger is unarmoured in he vast majority of cases and is often the scorpion man's worst attack skill. Eventualy the scorpion man's sting attack roll will fail while your parry succeeds, at which case you get to make a damage roll on the stinger. Once the stinger has been whittled off, you can adopt more conventional combat tactics. Finaly, Tigers are loners, which Player Character tend to hunt in packs. Even Lions, while often living in Prides, tend to attack in piecemeal fashion. Their group tactics are designed to herd their prey into an unavoidable one-on-one combat. Humans, on the other hand, can use co-operative military tactics and gang up on the Lions more efficiently. Humans can also use missile weapons to deadly effect. Having said all that, an unprepared human is in realy serious trouble against most large predators. Even a lone prepared human is at least risking serious injury. Lion hunting in ancient greece and the middle east was a dangerous business. That's exactly as it should be. Simon Hibbs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:21:30 -0400 (EDT) From: simon_hibbs@lycosmail.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Ken Murphy : > Later, at Raghnall's burial a dwarf named Elros called on the Gods to turn >the burial-site into a sacred place so Raghnall's cairn wouldn't be >disturbed.Well, the DI was a success(rolling 09 with a POW of 9). > All the winter-bare vegetation suddenly greened,and a hedge sprang up >around the clearing.Elros was gone, and in her place was a new tree grown up >thu her suit of armor. That's a lovely story. Perhaps Elros spirit haunts the burial mound, guarding it from those who would disturb it. I'm sure the ghost should be contactable by former comrades. I sense further scenario possibilities. Simon Hibbs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:09:09 -0500 From: William Wenz Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks - --------------B475030AF303D708A37EEA5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, a tiger can kill everybody. How you fight one will determin if it kills you. Isn't that the point? - --------------B475030AF303D708A37EEA5E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, a tiger can kill everybody. How you fight one will determin if it kills you. Isn't that the point? - --------------B475030AF303D708A37EEA5E-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:12:29 -0400 From: Richard Ohlson Subject: [RQ-RULES] Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my! Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:02:05 -0400 From: "Bob Stancliff" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:02:05 -0400 > From: "Bob Stancliff" > Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks > > Can a human parry (with just 2 actions) the three > atacks of an animal? or he must eat the last strike free? > > If there are more attacks than parries, then the extra attacks will get > in unblocked. > Bob Stancliff > However, if the character is a dodger, they can dodge all attacks from one source. BTW, regarding Tigers being un-defeatable, you can always gang up on them, take the hit, demoralize them, sever spirit them, or sick a spirit on them. Mind you, if the Tiger ambushes somebody, then I hope the beast gets to rip into them a bit before being turned into a throw rug. Rich *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:20:43 -0400 From: Tal Meta Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Fighting beasts and their multiple attacks German Cantabrana Gonzalez wrote: > > A tiger, then, can kill everybody. Nobody (except Wachaza figther) can parry > its last attacks. The tiger has to roll it's attacks just like everybody else. It could miss. - -- talmeta@cybercomm.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine ICQ - 12594453 AIM - talmeta Homepage - *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:31:05 -0400 From: Tal Meta Subject: Re: Objet : [RQ-RULES] Death by DI Emmanuel Ponette wrote: > > Do you think that if the character receive enough POW through Gift POW of Daka Fal, > he can be resurected? How can I determine if someone is resurectable or not. It would have to be done pretty quickly, as the body loses 1d3 characteristic points a day from every stat; after a few days, would it really be worth the effort? - -- talmeta@cybercomm.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine ICQ - 12594453 AIM - talmeta Homepage - *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:40:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20Lord?= Subject: [RQ-RULES] Enchantments on your body RuneQuest states that breaking an object breaks any enchantment it contains. I've never had to do this, 'cos I never really let my players have enchantments on their bodies. But I assume that broken body = broken enchantment. If a PC in your campaign has +6 AP on his arm, and takes a critical there that breaks it, no more enchantment.... cheers, Julian Lord ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Votre e-mail @yahoo.fr gratuit sur http://courrier.yahoo.fr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:54:20 -0400 From: Tal Meta Subject: [RQ-RULES] DMD - Duskur for RQ/Greyhawk Lords of the Nine DUSKUR Runes: Law (Malign), Undeath Duskur is another of Hell's outcasts, known by most as merely the "Dark Lady". Cult in the World One of the few female devils commonly summoned into the world, Duskur has needs that are unique, to say the least. Those who have made a study of this she-devil know that while many courted her, she would have the company of none, choosing instead to chart her own course. While she will not tolerate the fellowship of her own kind, she does surround herself with undead, which she creates from the bodies of those of her own kind foolish enough to cross or molest her in her wanderings. She knows the secrets of creating and controlling most forms of undead, and will share that knowledge with mortals for the proper price... Manifestations Duskur could be mistaken for a normal human woman of exceptional beauty, except for the snow white color of her skin, her smoky-grey leathery wings, and her eyes... deep pits of inky blackness. Her hair is long and black, and worn straight. Her only clothing is typically a silver-grey hooded cloak, worn more to cover her wings while not in flight than from any sense of human modesty. A deep chill always accompanies Duskur's presence in the world, tinged with the scent of a freshly dug grave. Lesser Contracts Requirements: Those who would forge a Lesser Contract with Duskur must be willing to make a few sacrifices; your family will do for a start. The attrition on her undead servants in Avernus is considerable, so she is always in need of fresh corpses... Duskur will provide the following services if gifted with the appropriate reward of POW: 1) She will teach the supplicant the means of creating a special unguent that when rubbed onto the bones of a skeleton will give the brittle bones 1d4 AP. 2) She will teach the supplicant the ingrediants for a special bath that will greatly preserve the corpse of any zombie or ghoul, giving it 1d8 AP. 2) She will teach the supplicant the secret language of ghouls. In most cases, this will allow the supplicant to converse with them in a firendly fashion, and if well fed, they may agree to serve the supplicant so long a food is provided daily. 4) For this gift, Duskur will teach the supplicant a special version of the various 'Create ' spells, except that instead of animating a single undead, they will effect 1d4 individual corpses. Greater Contracts Requirements: Those who would seek to forge a Greater Contract with Duskur must be prepared to sacrifice those around them at a moment's notice to the needs of their mistress. Those whom Duskur has favored with a Greater Contract gain several special abilities, first and foremost of which is immunity to all of the special attack forms of the various types of undead. This includes possession by ghosts (only), the howl and bite of ghouls, the touch of a liche, and the touch, bite, and stare of a vampire. By expending 1 POW from their Talisman, they can Command these types of undead as per the divine magic spell. For the cost of three POW from their Talisman, they may utter a curse against a specific individual or against a family, with varying results. An individual can be cursed with vampirism if he dies within 24 hours. A family can be cursed with a malignant ghost, usually the spirit of someone whom the family has wronged in the past who comes among them to wreak vengence for the wrongs that were done. Duskur's Talismans generally take the form of a small (¼ size) human skull made of silver with black opals for eyes. From time to time, the skull may speak (via telepathy) to it's bearer, and demand the death of someone in the bearer's presence. Failure to comply with this demand usually dooms the bearer to death and reanimation as a vampire or mummy. - -- talmeta@cybercomm.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine ICQ - 12594453 AIM - talmeta Homepage - *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:31:49 -0400 From: Andrew Barton Subject: [RQ-RULES] Death by DI This is explicitly covered in the rulebook. If your roll for a DI is exactly equal to your POW, you get what you asked for and the character's spirit ends up in its appointed place on the god plane. The character is dead. If your POW is drained to 0 by other means, the only reference I can find is under 'Disease'. There it is said that if a character's POW is reduced to 0 by Soul Waste, he ceases to exist, even spiritually. IIRC, the version of the cult of Caladra and Aurelion published in RQ2 days in Different Worlds referred to a mighty heroquest which did allow the recovery of a person whose spirit had been destroyed. IMG such a quest would amount to creating a new spirit from the memories of others and magical traces left by the original person. If successful, it would produce a person who seemed and acted like the original. Andrew *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V2 #137 ************************************* *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. 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