From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #40 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.imagiconline.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Tuesday, April 24 2001 Volume 04 : Number 040 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS Re: [RQ-RULES] Calculate fatigue values (if you use 'em) as 2 x CON [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells [RQ-RULES] Celtic spells & WD listing Re: [RQ-RULES] Celtic spells & WD listing [RQ-RULES] Ten [RQ-RULES] Befuddle Spell Re: [RQ-RULES] Ten RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:16:33 +0800 From: Jeremy Martin Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Calculate fatigue values (if you use 'em) as 2 x CON > >and always use the ENC values for medium SIZ armour. > > That is tempting. I like it too. Often you get a character with larger SIZ, but fatigue isn't necessarily higher. Call it even weight distribution across a larger frame. But if a SIZ 12 person tries to carry off a SIZ 24 Troll's armor, still count it at full ENC... Jeremy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:28:16 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells - --part1_65.13244215.28130110_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gang, I recently read that WD 61 had some Celtic-type spells in it for RQ. Does anyone have a copy and be willing to share the information? Thanks in advance, -Ken Murphy- - --part1_65.13244215.28130110_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gang,
I recently read that WD 61 had some Celtic-type spells in it for RQ. Does
anyone have a copy and be willing to share the information?
Thanks in advance,
-Ken Murphy- - --part1_65.13244215.28130110_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:08:21 -0600 From: Stephen Posey Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells MurfNMurf@aol.com wrote: > > Hi gang, > I recently read that WD 61 had some Celtic-type spells in it for RQ. > Does anyone have a copy and be willing to share the information? I can cofirm that there was such a list, I don't have access to all my old issues of WD to say for sure it was that issue, sounds about right. The only particular spell that comes to mind from the list was called (IIRC) "Jack-o-the-Green" which created/summoned a kind of soil/wood elmental. Stephen Posey slposey@concentric.net *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:54:45 +0100 From: William Wenz Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells No I don't. At least not yet, it is on my list of magazines I want to acquire. WD 53 is also supposed to have some Celtic rune spells, so if anyone has this issue would you be willing to post it as well? There is a good index of White Dwarf issues at: http://pw2.netcom.com/~psyker/contents.html Unfortunately the RQ articles are not categorized separately so you have to go through the index issue by issue to find which ones have RQ articles. But the site is well set up so it is not hard to do. W. Kurt Wenz *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:35:03 EDT From: IssariesGT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells In a message dated 4/21/01 11:40:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MurfNMurf@aol.com writes: << Hi gang, I recently read that WD 61 had some Celtic-type spells in it for RQ. Does anyone have a copy and be willing to share the information? Thanks in advance, -Ken Murphy- >> I believe I might have a copy. E-mail me in a day or two and I'll look in my storage for it. I would actually have to have 2 copies of the magazine (highly likely) because I would have to cut the pages to scan them. kes *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:22:15 +0100 From: "Meirion Hopkins" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Celtic spells & WD listing Hi all I have both issues and am quite happy to take orders for scanned versions of the spell lists. I also have a Lotus Approach database listing RQ2, RQ3 and Pendragon articles and scenarios from WD41-101 (the last issue to contain any RQ), some pre WD41 issues are also included. If anyone wants a copy, again I'm happy to take orders. Cheers Meirion PS The celtic runespells are in WD53 & 62. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] WD 61Celtic spells > In a message dated 4/21/01 11:40:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > MurfNMurf@aol.com writes: > > << Hi gang, > I recently read that WD 61 had some Celtic-type spells in it for RQ. Does > anyone have a copy and be willing to share the information? > Thanks in advance, > -Ken Murphy- > >> > I believe I might have a copy. E-mail me in a day or two and I'll look in my > storage for it. I would actually have to have 2 copies of the magazine > (highly likely) because I would have to cut the pages to scan them. > > kes > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:16:41 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Celtic spells & WD listing - --part1_15.13226b6e.281611d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/23/01 12:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time, Meirion@ukgateway.net writes: > Hi all > > I have both issues and am quite happy to take orders for scanned versions > of the spell lists. > > I also have a Lotus Approach database listing RQ2, RQ3 and Pendragon > articles and scenarios from > WD41-101 (the last issue to contain any RQ), some pre WD41 issues are also > included. If anyone > wants a copy, again I'm happy to take orders. > > Cheers > > Meirion > > PS The celtic runespells are in WD53 & 62. > > > Gosh Meirion, I can't speak for anyone else, but seeing as how I was the one who brought up the subject in the _first_ place, I know _I'd_ certianly be proud to accept a copy of the RQ Celtic spells from you :) Thanks in advance. -Ken- - --part1_15.13226b6e.281611d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/23/01 12:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
Meirion@ukgateway.net writes:

Hi all

I have both issues and am quite happy to take orders for scanned versions
of the spell lists.

I also have a Lotus Approach database listing RQ2, RQ3 and Pendragon
articles and scenarios from
WD41-101 (the last issue to contain any RQ), some pre WD41 issues are also
included. If anyone
wants a copy, again I'm happy to take orders.

Cheers

Meirion

PS The celtic runespells are in WD53 & 62.

  Gosh Meirion,
  I can't speak for anyone else, but seeing as how I was the one who brought
up the subject in the _first_ place, I know _I'd_ certianly be proud to
accept a copy of the RQ Celtic spells from you :)
  Thanks in advance.
  -Ken-
- --part1_15.13226b6e.281611d9_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:51:32 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: [RQ-RULES] Ten - --part1_37.141c8288.28163624_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya gang, Okay, this week's question is about something in the RQ Japan stuff. In the Gamemaster's book, pg 26, is a description of the _Ten_: According to the book, Ten are Buddhist spirits, guardians of the faith, its believers, and its temples. To this end, they may be summoned, or in extraordinary circumstances may come of their own will, to inhabit the guiardian statues of a temple. The typical statue depicts a fierce Myo-O (firece scowls and muscular bodies, armed with temple swords and ropes), but may instead depict a shishi (the great lion-dogs). If the statue is destroyed the Ten will return to the spirit plane. Magic designed against possession will work against embodied Ten as if it had a living host. Embodied Ten taking the form of Shishi have the hit location and attacks of a lion. Otherwise, however, the statistics are identical. Some temples may have huge statues, with greater SIZ and STR. Such is the discretion of the gamemaster. STR 2D6+12 Move 3 if wood, 2 if stone. SIZ 2D6+12 HP 19 INT 2D6+6 Ftg --- POW 2D6+6 MP 13 DEX 2D6+2 DEX SR 4 The Ten's HP are treated as if they were a weapon's AP. The wooden Ten's HP per location are 9 ih the chest, 6 in the arms, and 7 everywhere else. The stone Ten's HP per location are double this. A couple of weapon attacks follow, using weapons made of wood or stone, not surprisingly; with either 8 or 16 AP. Anyhow, my _usual_ question when it comes to animated things of an unspecified size is: Just how big _are_ these embodied statues anyhow? When in Shishi form, its attacks are treated prettymuch like a lion's. So I'm wondering if its statue would actually be lion-sized or what. And as far as when its in its Myo-O statue form, just how big _is_ one of these temple statues, anyhow? If one of you out there knows the how big these things are in the _RW_, please let me know. Thanks. -Ken- - --part1_37.141c8288.28163624_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya gang,
  Okay, this week's question is about something in the RQ Japan stuff.
  In the Gamemaster's book, pg 26, is a description of the _Ten_:
  According to the book, Ten are Buddhist spirits, guardians of the faith,
its believers, and its temples. To this end, they may be summoned, or in
extraordinary circumstances may come of their own will, to inhabit the
guiardian statues of a temple. The typical statue depicts a fierce Myo-O
(firece scowls and muscular bodies, armed with temple swords and ropes), but
may instead depict a shishi (the great lion-dogs). If the statue is destroyed
the Ten will return to the spirit plane. Magic designed against possession
will work against embodied Ten as if it had a living host.
  Embodied Ten taking the form of Shishi have the hit location and attacks
of a lion. Otherwise, however, the statistics are identical. Some temples may
have huge statues, with greater SIZ and STR. Such is the discretion of the
gamemaster.

STR 2D6+12         Move 3 if wood, 2 if stone.
SIZ 2D6+12           HP 19
INT 2D6+6             Ftg ---
POW 2D6+6          MP 13
DEX 2D6+2            DEX SR 4

  The Ten's HP are treated as if they were a weapon's AP.
  The wooden Ten's HP per location are 9 ih the chest, 6 in the arms, and 7
everywhere else. The stone Ten's HP per location are double this.
  A couple of weapon attacks follow, using weapons made of wood or stone,
not surprisingly; with either 8 or 16 AP.

  Anyhow, my _usual_ question when it comes to animated things of an
unspecified size is: Just how big _are_ these embodied statues anyhow? When
in Shishi form, its attacks are treated prettymuch like a lion's. So I'm
wondering if its statue would actually be lion-sized or what. And as far as
when its in its Myo-O statue form, just how big _is_ one of these temple
statues, anyhow? If one of you out there knows the how big these things are
in the _RW_, please let me know.
  Thanks.
-Ken-
- --part1_37.141c8288.28163624_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:06:06 -0700 From: "Northern DM" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Befuddle Spell I have a question about the Befuddle spell in RQ3. It states that if you miss your INT roll at the end of the round, you are confused for the next round. My question is what happens if you are attacked the next round. I know that you get no defences at all but what happens after you are attacked? Will you now defend yourself? How I saw the spell was that you will defend yourself against this foe, only after the intial attack, but once your foe was down, you went back into your befuddled state again. Furthermore, do you get to make the INT roll each round? Thanks for the answers, The Northern DM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:38:33 +0800 From: Jeremy Martin Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ten - --------------2710340C498AD7FD56AFD8DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm. The first, most obvious answer is 'look at it's SIZ'. It's actually 2D6 smaller than the lion listed in the 3E Creatures book. Also (as it was just pointed out) SIZ is mass, not height or weight, and we're talking about a stone creature, we should divide the mass by about 5 to understand how big a flesh-and-blood creature would be... It's tiny - maybe the size of a big dog. On the other hand, I live in Taiwan and have seen many such statues (they also have dragon statues) and I'd say they're a bit bigger than real lions. They're almost as long, but have very rounded bodies that give them a lot more mass - I'd say 4-5' long, and 2-3' thick. It really depends on the temple (the bigger, richer temples having more money for extravagance), but most of these places like to exaggerate things a bit to seem more impressive.The people are on the same scale, but since they're statues of gods, they're usually 7-8' tall. If you want accuracy, I'd use the numbers listed for human statuary, or settle on a size for the lions, either a little smaller to double the size (or bigger) for lions. So maybe a SIZ of 20 for an small temple, and 30 to 40 for a large one. I've got a couple of pictures from visits to temples and such, would you like to see a few (Taiwanese) examples? Jeremy > > Anyhow, my _usual_ question when it comes to animated things of an > unspecified size is: Just how big _are_ these embodied statues anyhow? > When > in Shishi form, its attacks are treated prettymuch like a lion's. So > I'm > wondering if its statue would actually be lion-sized or what. And as > far as > when its in its Myo-O statue form, just how big _is_ one of these > temple > statues, anyhow? If one of you out there knows the how big these > things are > in the _RW_, please let me know. > Thanks. > -Ken- - --------------2710340C498AD7FD56AFD8DC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm. The first, most obvious answer is 'look at it's SIZ'. It's actually 2D6 smaller than the lion listed in the 3E Creatures book. Also (as it was just pointed out) SIZ is mass, not height or weight, and we're talking about a stone creature, we should divide the mass by about 5 to understand how big a flesh-and-blood creature would be... It's tiny - maybe the size of a big dog.

On the other hand, I live in Taiwan and have seen many such statues (they also have dragon statues) and I'd say they're a bit bigger than real lions. They're almost as long, but have very rounded bodies that give them a lot more mass - I'd say 4-5' long, and 2-3' thick. It really depends on the temple (the bigger, richer temples having more money for extravagance), but most of these places like to exaggerate things a bit to seem more impressive.The people are on the same scale, but since they're statues of gods, they're usually 7-8' tall.

If you want accuracy, I'd use the numbers listed for human statuary, or settle on a size for the lions, either a little smaller to double the size (or bigger) for lions. So maybe a SIZ of 20 for an small temple, and 30 to 40 for a large one.

I've got a couple of pictures from visits to temples and such, would you like to see a few (Taiwanese) examples?

Jeremy

Anyhow, my _usual_ question when it comes to animated things of an
unspecified size is: Just how big _are_ these embodied statues anyhow? When
in Shishi form, its attacks are treated prettymuch like a lion's. So I'm
wondering if its statue would actually be lion-sized or what. And as far as
when its in its Myo-O statue form, just how big _is_ one of these temple
statues, anyhow? If one of you out there knows the how big these things are
in the _RW_, please let me know.
Thanks.
-Ken-

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