From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #102 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Sunday, August 5 2001 Volume 04 : Number 102 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS [RQ-RULES] RQ Fonts redux... [RQ-RULES] Chalana Arroy And dark aspect? [RQ-RULES] Bestiary Re: [RQ-RULES] Bestiary Re: [RQ-RULES] Few Questions [RQ-RULES] DMD: Charmalaine for RQ/Greyhawk [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? Re: [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? Re: [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? [RQ-RULES] Airborne gnomes RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:14:32 -0400 From: Viktor Haag Subject: [RQ-RULES] RQ Fonts redux... After some further investigation, I'm pretty sure that the heading font used in the RQ3 rules and supplements is Benguiat. I'm not sure about the body font, but it's probably something domestic like Palatino. - -- Viktor Haag : Software & Information Design : Research In Motion +--+ "See? What? Walk in real quick was the plan?" *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:06:55 -0700 From: Simon Hibbs Subject: [RQ-RULES] Chalana Arroy And dark aspect? Paul Sommer : >Just an idea that I have put into being in my pavis campaign , Could it be >possible that Chalana Arroy has a darks side ??? i.e along the line of the >hindi godess Parvati and her dark side Kali. That's Malia. >The idea being that even Gods have more than one aspect and this Dark Chalana >arroy sub-cult would extist within the Main chalana Arroy Cult and yet not be >mentioned . Parvati and Kali are worshiped as seperate deities, with their own cults and (interlinked) mythologies. Acts commited by Kali do not reflect upon Parvati, and so on. Making such as dark aspect a subcult of Chalana Arroy is IMHO missing the point. > .....The main motive behind the dark aspect of Chalana Arroy Would be >detect those who commit violence ,cause injuries or spread disease BEFORE they >get a chance and ......cough .....eliminate the problem before it arises. _Very_ different from the Parvati/Kali analogy. This would be analogous to playing the Thugees as heroic Robin Hood types. >Any thoughts on such a sub-cult? In pavis and pavis county area there are just >5 members most of them Initiates. A cult almost identical to the one you want already exists - Xiola Umbar goddess of tough love, and one of my personal favourite PC cults. Simon Hibbs *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:23:53 -0700 From: "Daniel Fitch" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Bestiary - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C119C4.0B3CC160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After many long years in the dark embrace of D&D and GURPS (both of which= I, admittedly, still enjoy) I am resurrecting my favorite system...RuneQ= uest, of course. My problem is I only have AH versions, having sold my b= eautiful Chaosium collection during the Great Time of Tribulation (my poo= r college years). I now need the Gloranthan Bestiary to complete my Prax= campaign. Any ideas where I might find this elusive tome? Dan Fitch Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://exp= lorer.msn.com - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C119C4.0B3CC160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After many lon= g years in the dark embrace of D&D and GURPS (both of which I, admitt= edly, still enjoy) I am resurrecting my favorite system...RuneQuest,= of course.  My problem is I only have AH versions, having sold= my beautiful Chaosium collection during the Great Time of Tribulation (m= y poor college years).  I now need the Gloranthan Bestiary to comple= te my Prax campaign.  Any ideas where I might find this elusive tome= ?
 
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- ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C119C4.0B3CC160-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:15:20 EDT From: MurfNMurf@aol.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Bestiary - --part1_36.19712291.2899cb68_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/1/01 1:18:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan wonders: > I now need the Gloranthan Bestiary to complete my Prax campaign. Any ideas > where I might find this elusive tome? > > Well, about 2 months back, I was trying to navigate through Avalon Hill's worthless on-again-off-again page, and ran across listings of most of the RQ3 stuff still apparently for sale. I couldn't tell you if its still there though. Luck! -Ken- - --part1_36.19712291.2899cb68_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/1/01 1:18:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan wonders:

I now need the Gloranthan Bestiary to complete my Prax campaign.  Any ideas
where I might find this elusive tome?

  


  Well, about 2 months back, I was trying to navigate through Avalon Hill's
worthless on-again-off-again page, and ran across listings of most of the RQ3
stuff still apparently for sale. I couldn't tell you if its still there
though.
  Luck!
 -Ken-

- --part1_36.19712291.2899cb68_boundary-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:59:42 -0400 From: "Jim Bickmeyer" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Few Questions from Mikko Korhonen >after all these years (13) of playing RQ using 3rd Edition rules, i did >re-reading of the most basic rules. It seems i have misunderstood few >points, or that translation to Finnish has left some things out. Something I should do too. My stop gap is to get my players to look up rules and help determine their applications. >Shields: Do they protect agains special and critical attacks with just a normal succes? I am not sure of Crit's but a special with an impale can result in the impaling weapon getting stuck in the shield. >Dodge: Allows dodging of ALL attacks from one source? That's what it says. Pretty good huh. >Criticals: Slashing and crushing do full damage, and that's it. Or is there >some special effect, like some 2nd edition extra rules suggested (double >damage for slashes, max damage modifier plus rolled dm for crushes) ? Basic RQ3 is full damage for critical of all attacks. I think it is implied that a critical Impale is double weapon damage ignore all armor. My house rules state that all crits to full weapon damage, ignore mundane armor. Impaling weapons do NOT gain impale on a crit. So in effect it 5% to crit and 15% to special. As an additional note, I use alternate rules for specials. Impale, double weapon damage to head and torso Slash, full weapon damage to head and limbs crush, full strength damage to all locations. >Question about Sandy's sorcery rules: >Evoke(energy) is not classified as an attack spell(instant, ranged). Is this >right? If it is not, according to rules target then gets no resistance roll >against caster's MP's... IMO this would balance this otherwise quite heavy >spell nicely (for 10 mp:s you get damage from 1 to 10, and if target resists >then nothing happens...) I also had asked this question. Sandy's reply was that the Evoke [Energy] did NOT have targeting roll as well. I believe he considered the spell casting skill roll as part of the ability to hit the target. The problem with that is, what if it is the Held spell. Someone, at the time, suggested a sorcerer making a throw roll. I didn't go with that route. I figured the use of presence, and MP expended made it difficult enough. As a gaming example, we had a Sorcerer on Griffin Island using Sandy's rules. His held spell was Evoke Lightning. Every combat encounter started with a flash of light and someone getting a shock. As the GM I didn't complain. It seemed to work and the costs were good enough that he didn't go around throwing bolts of lightning like a D&D mage. Jim Bickmeyer *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 01:19:00 -0400 From: Tal Meta Subject: [RQ-RULES] DMD: Charmalaine for RQ/Greyhawk Gods of the Hobniz, inspired by the "Blood of Heroes" article in LGJ#3, by Sean Reynolds, Fred Weining, & Erik Mona. (Since the noniz deity list is so small (much like that of the hobniz), I'll eventually be combining both pantheons into a single work on my website...) CHARMALAINE Runes: Mind Charmalaine is the young hero-goddess of Keen Senses & Narrow Escapes. Cult in the World Originally born the daughter of one of Brandobaris' rare avatars, Charmalaine led a wild and reckless life across most of the known Flanaess and some of the unknown bits as well before ascending to the Upper Worlds. While the luck of her father played a large part in her success, it was her own dedication to the honing of her senses that drew her along the Path of Heroes. Charmalaine's followers do not observe a regular High Holy Day, rather whichever Priest maintains the local shrine sets his own schedule, designed to best fulfill the needs of his flock. Regular services are maintained every Godsday, in any event. Priests of Charmalaine typically don oiled black leather armor like their patroness, and wield light maces in combat. Whenever Charmalaine favors one of her initiates or priests with an Allied Spirit, it always takes the form of an awakened ferret. Lay Membership Requirements: Lay followers of Charmalaine are often wanderers, scouts, or adventurers. Skills taught by the cult include Dodge, Leap, Walk Tightrope, Speak Languages, Evaluate, Lores (hobniz, world), Juggle, Play Instrument, Listen, Scan, Scent/Taste, Ceremony, and 1H Mace attack. Initiate Membership Requirements: In addition to the standard requirements, prospective initiates of Charmalaine must awaken their psionic potential. Charmalaine's cult only teaches the skills related to the Clairaudience Aspect (which is counted as being only half it's total for the purposes of calculating total Aspect) and Gestalt. Spirit Magic: Befuddle, Comprehension, Ease Pain, Farsee, Mind Trap, and Second Sight. Priesthood Requirements: Standard. Priests of Charmalaine (known as Mentors) typically retire from their wandering lifestyles and 'settle down' to tend an available shrine. Though many still take long sabbaticals to visit friends or check out local problems, such leaves of absence never conflict with their schedule of holidays (though missing a few Godsdays is not uncommon). Virtues for this cult include Curious and Reckless. Common Divine Magic: Armoring Enchantment, Binding Enchantment, Call Followers, Dismiss Magic, Divination, Enchant Holy Symbol, Excommunication, Heal Wound, Initiate, Magic Point Matrix Enchantment, Mindlink, Sanctify, Soul Sight, Spell Matrix Enchantment, Spellteaching, Strengthening Enchantment, Warding, Worship Charmalaine. Special Divine Magic: Awaken, Mindbridge, Path Watch, and Sixth Sense. Associated Gods Brandobaris: provides Avoid Fate - -- talmeta@cybercomm.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine AIM - talmeta Homepage - Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats, approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:45:05 -0400 From: "peterm/maranci.net@mail.maranci.net" Subject: [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? Just wondering if anyone knows where I can find a list of every product that was ever published for RQ? I'm writing up a history and introduction to RQ for the RPG Orphanage (http://www.mindspring.com/~jhicks10/), and I'd like to include a full product list. I already know about the list at http://www.glorantha.com/products/past-products.html, but of course that's Gloranthan material only. I want it all. By the way if anyone would like to see the RQ history, I've put a working copy up on my web site. Any comments are, as always, welcome. It's not linked from anywhere in my site (yet), so you'll have to go there directly: http://www.maranci.net/rqpast.htm ->Peter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Maranci peter@maranci.net Woonsocket, RI Pete's RuneQuest & Roleplaying!: http://www.maranci.net/rq.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ . *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:00:16 +0300 (EEST) From: Olli Kantola Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, peterm/maranci.net@mail.maranci.net wrote: > Just wondering if anyone knows where I can find a list of every product that was ever published for RQ? I'm writing up a history and introduction to RQ for the RPG Orphanage (http://www.mindspring.com/~jhicks10/), and I'd like to include a full product list. Maybe you should buy The Meints Index to Glorantha II, by Rick Meitns. It is a pretty complete listing with comments and reviews of products complete with a listing of hundred of magazine articles etc. Olli Kantola *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:08:51 -0400 From: trentfs@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] RQ Bibliography? Peter Maranci wrote: > By the way if anyone would like to see the RQ history, I've put a >working copy up on my web site. Any comments are, as always, >welcome. It's not linked from anywhere in my site (yet), so you'll >have to go there directly: >http://www.maranci.net/rqpast.htm Looks pretty solid to me, with a couple quibbles and possible clarifications: 1)"Unlike previous systems, characters in RuneQuest are not defined and limited by a "class" or profession. Instead, they have skills" This was also true of TRAVELLER, published a year before RQ (the 'careers' in TRAVELLER having the same function as the Previous Experience charts in RQ - figure out what skills your character has - but with all skills still available to any character, regardless of career-path). A significant difference, though, was RQ's universal and consistent percentage-based system, as opposed to TRAVELLER's ad hoc non-system. 2)"A new editor at Avalon Hill named Ken Rolston recruited writers from the fan base and published well-illustrated new Gloranthan material" Possibly worth mentioning that KR was previously both a vocal proponent of RQ during his days as game reviewer for DRAGON magazine (I know he turned me onto it), as well as a contributor/co-author of some later RQ2 products ('Pavis' and/or 'Big Rubble' IIRC). 3)"The majority of fans ended up in the first camp, and the Glorantha Digest mailing list became a hotbed of a new breed of Gloranthan "scholar". The list saw discussions of amazing obscurity, focusing on issues both minute and esoteric." This shift actually happened while the list was still called "the RuneQuest Digest/Daily," and presumably caused the subsequent name-change and list-split, which happened well before the 'official' divorce of RQ and Glorantha. 4)"Before RuneQuest Slayers could be published it was placed into limbo, however, by the takeover of Avalon Hill by Wizards of the Coast. ... The final nail in RuneQuest's coffin was the acquisition of WOTC by Hasbro." I believe you've got the order of events backwards here, and that AH was acquired directly by Hasbro before Hasbro also acquired WotC. Perhaps some mention could also be made of WotC's operational philosophy ("the theory of network externalities") that the marketplace can only support one rpg rules-system (that being D&D3/d20) as further evidence of why a Hasbro/WotC-published RQ4 will presumably never appear. Trent *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:42:38 +0300 (EEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marko_Per=E4l=E4?= Subject: [RQ-RULES] Airborne gnomes I have been wondering about gnomes and other elementals in great speed lately. If an elemental was released from a binding enchantment while the enchantment item moving rapidly, would the elemental have the enchantments speed after materialising or would it be left behind while the binding object went on? I tend to believe the first option although it raises lots of possibilities in my sadistic mind. An arrow with a gnome binded in it would be devastating weapon if the gnome was given the order to come out in mid-air. 10 m3 gnome coming at you like a meteor is not a healthy sight. If that was the case, how should the damage be calculated? Simple damage bonus seems way too little for this kind of case. Double or triple perhaps? Comments, ideas? Marko Perälä perala@cc.joensuu.fi *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #102 ************************************* *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RuneQuest is a Trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. 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