From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #128 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Sunday, November 11 2001 Volume 04 : Number 128 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction results for Quest Rules [RQ-RULES] subscribe [RQ-RULES] Mindblast RE: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast Re: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast [RQ-RULES] How do I subscribe? [RQ-RULES] Pennies RE: [RQ-RULES] Pennies [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover Re: [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover Re: [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:14:18 -0000 From: "N.J. Effingham" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 Jeremy: > Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any > need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... No. A Rune Magic spell is not stored in Free INT and therefore cannot be transferred to an intellect spirit, only sorcery spells and spirit spells can. > Also, do you lose the spell when you transfer it to an intellect spirit? I > always assumed no, and that the character would have to spend an hour per > point forgetting the spell afterwards. I would rule that if you allow transfers, then yes. This stops multiple copies of higher level spells being handed around (say someone managed to learn, by some fiat, a 10 point spell, they could copy it at will! But if they're forced to forget it then there can only ever be one copy at a time). > So I would never allow a spirit to 'teach' a spell to a person. Think of > the imbalances - every character has access to everybody else's spells. The > shaman learns Bladesharp 6 ('cuz HE can), puts it in an intellect spirit and > gives it to everyone else (even one character transfers are too much). > Wizards with a pet intellect spirit trade spells at will (then relearn from > their spellbooks, if forgotten). Right, your shaman _could_ do this. But he could just as easily (well, maybe not just as easily) go out and learn Control Spell Spirit, defeat the spell spirit that way and force it to allow itself to teach the spell to a low POW playetr. Why don't they? Two reasons, first shamans aren't liable to do this for just anyone, it takes a certain amount of persuasion. Secondly, I don't think shamans are usually _that_ powerful. They can get powerful (think of BLueface from Griffin Mountain) but your average tribal shaman has a POW 11 or 12 fetch IMHO. > Besides, how would you learn all the hand-waving we need for a spell? How to > use the focus? I think it comes with the intellect spirit - a sort of, all in one deal. > As GM and game balancer, I would feel it necessary to limit this one... I've never felt them to be unbalancing. They're like matrices except... spiritual : ) Plus, some bugger can cast spells at your spirit, or a shaman's fetch can release your intellect spirits at an inopportune moment if you allow it (which is why fighting shamans at high level can be so deadly!). Nikk __________________________________ Nikk Effingham Work E-mail address: phlnje@leeds.ac.uk Permanent E-mail address: nikk@MailAndNews.com URL: http://www.crashbox.com/nikk/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:09:17 -0800 From: "Andrew O. Mellinger" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 >Jeremy: > >> Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any >> need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... > >No. A Rune Magic spell is not stored in Free INT and therefore >cannot be transferred to an intellect spirit, only sorcery spells and >spirit spells can. In my view Divine spells are essentially divine powers one is granted by their connection to their god. If is via the worshippers emulation and similarity that they are able to channel the abilites of their god. So looking at it from this perspective, I'd definitely have to agree with Nikk. I would almost be like transferring you initiate link through an intellect spirit. Ick. - -Andrew - -- /*----------------------------------------------------------------- mailto:andrew@crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com -----------------------------------------------------------------*/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:36:59 -0500 From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction results for Quest Rules Well you know us gamer type we all like to help out. Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Perrin" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction results for Quest Rules > Just looked at the website and I see that a total of five of you made bids, > so that's five subscriptions. Thanks to all of you for contributing to the > auction. As soon as they send me the email addresses, I'll send you your > chapters. > > You haven't missed much at this point, I'm in the middle of a technical > writing project and haven't had any time to add to the rules. More is > coming. > > Steve Perrin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" > > To: > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] GIDFA auction is a good cause > > > > Well I put a bid in also to show my support Steve. > > ken > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:01:39 -0000 From: "Benedict Walsh" Subject: [RQ-RULES] subscribe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C16961.B9E4AC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can I? - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C16961.B9E4AC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C16961.B9E4AC40-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:12:05 +0200 From: Heikki Raappana Subject: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1696B.90938A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm using finnish translation of RuneQuest rules (I guess it's a mixture of RQ 2. and 3. editions) and seems like something is missing from the description of Mindblast -rune spell. Free translation is something like "...when successfull, this spell destroys all the intelligence from it's target..." although it's not mentioned whether the opponent is allowed to resistance roll. I have used the regular POW vs. POW -roll in my game, but I was wondering, that because of the nature of that spell it could be something like POW vs. INT as well... Well, how it is? - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1696B.90938A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

I'm using finnish translation of RuneQuest rules

(I guess it's a mixture of RQ 2. and 3. editions) and seems like something

is missing from the description of Mindblast -rune spell. Free

translation is something like "...when successfull, this spell destroys all

the intelligence from it's target..." although it's not mentioned whether

the opponent is allowed to resistance roll. I have used the regular

POW vs. POW -roll in my game, but I was wondering, that because of the nature

of that spell it could be something like POW vs. INT as well...

Well, how it is?

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1696B.90938A50-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:03:52 +0200 From: "Korhonen Mikko" Subject: RE: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast Hi Heikki, you are not the only one having problems with Finnish translation of RQ. Mindblasts description says :" This spell destroys INT of the target if the caster overcomes the target's magic points. " Cheers, Mikko - -----Original Message----- From: Heikki Raappana [mailto:heikki.raappana@songnetworks.fi] Sent: 10. marraskuuta 2001 0:12 To: 'runequest-rules@lists.ient.com' Subject: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast I'm using finnish translation of RuneQuest rules (I guess it's a mixture of RQ 2. and 3. editions) and seems like something is missing from the description of Mindblast -rune spell. Free translation is something like "...when successfull, this spell destroys all the intelligence from it's target..." although it's not mentioned whether the opponent is allowed to resistance roll. I have used the regular POW vs. POW -roll in my game, but I was wondering, that because of the nature of that spell it could be something like POW vs. INT as well... Well, how it is? *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:29:04 -0500 From: "Alan Chambers" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast Mine says " This spell destroys the INT of the target if the caster over comes the target's magic points. This effect lasts that number of days equal to half of the caster's POW (round up any fraction), and cannot be dispelled. If the caster achieves a special success in overcoming the target's magic points then he also does 1D6+2 points of damage to the target's head." I hope it helps Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Korhonen Mikko" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast > Hi Heikki, > > you are not the only one having problems with Finnish translation of RQ. > Mindblasts description says :" This spell destroys INT of the target if the > caster overcomes the target's magic points. " > > Cheers, > > Mikko > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heikki Raappana [mailto:heikki.raappana@songnetworks.fi] > Sent: 10. marraskuuta 2001 0:12 > To: 'runequest-rules@lists.ient.com' > Subject: [RQ-RULES] Mindblast > > > I'm using finnish translation of RuneQuest rules > (I guess it's a mixture of RQ 2. and 3. editions) and seems like something > is missing from the description of Mindblast -rune spell. Free > translation is something like "...when successfull, this spell destroys all > the intelligence from it's target..." although it's not mentioned whether > the opponent is allowed to resistance roll. I have used the regular > POW vs. POW -roll in my game, but I was wondering, that because of the nature > of that spell it could be something like POW vs. INT as well... > Well, how it is? > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:44:17 -0600 From: "Joe Mills" Subject: [RQ-RULES] How do I subscribe? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C169E5.68DB14E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I subscribe to the Runequest Rules list? Is this the right place? Joe Mills - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C169E5.68DB14E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Is this the right place?
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C169E5.68DB14E0-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:54:17 -0500 From: "Alan Chambers" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Pennies Does RQ3 say how much a silver penny weighs? I seem to recall it does, but I can't find it. By way of comparison, a English Silver penny weighed about 1.5 grams and a US Mercury Dime weighed about 2.5 grams. Alan " I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him." ---Mark Twain *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:02:03 +0100 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Germ=E1n_Cantabrana_Gonz=E1lez?= Subject: RE: [RQ-RULES] Pennies > Does RQ3 say how much a silver penny weighs? I seem to recall it does, but I > can't find it. > By way of comparison, a English Silver penny weighed about 1.5 grams and a > US Mercury Dime weighed about 2.5 grams. More or less. It says that a kg of silver cost 50 pennies and that a coin cost double than its weighs. So a kg of penny coins "cost" 100 pennies. 1 kg = 1000 gr. / 100 coins => 1 penny coin = 10 grs. JAM *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:00:55 -0500 From: "Alan Chambers" Subject: [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover Does anyone know what kind of creature is on the cover of RQII ? The one eating the shield, not the young lady. <:o) Alan " I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him." ---Mark Twain *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:16:19 -0800 From: Trevor Murphy Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover I've always wondered about that myself. It looks like a slarge, but I've only seen slarges in RQ 3 sources (the Glorantha Bestiary, Griffin Island & Elder Secrets). Did they exist in RQ 1 & 2? Someone who owns the Gateway Bestiary might know. Trevor >Does anyone know what kind of creature is on the cover of RQII ? The one >eating the shield, not the young lady. <:o) > >Alan > >" I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, >I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him >to a quiet place and kill him." > ---Mark Twain > > > >*************************************************************************** >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com >with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:56:37 -0700 From: Stephen Posey Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] RQII Cover Trevor Murphy wrote: > > I've always wondered about that myself. It looks like a slarge, but > I've only seen slarges in RQ 3 sources (the Glorantha Bestiary, > Griffin Island & Elder Secrets). Did they exist in RQ 1 & 2? > Someone who owns the Gateway Bestiary might know. I've always presumed it to be a Dragonnewt of some sort. The Gateway Bestiary has no entry for "Slarge"; and, since it arrived comparatively late in the RQ2 sequence of things, I wouldn't consider it particularly canonical (it's "Gateway" critters anyway, not supposed to be Gloranthan). Since the RQ1 and 2 cover illos were by Luise Perrine and Steve P. posts here regularly, I'd suspect we can get a authoritative answer with little trouble. Stephen Posey slposey@concentric.net *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #128 ************************************* *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. RuneQuest is a Trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. With the exception of previously copyrighted material, unless specified otherwise all text in this digest is copyright by the author or authors, with rights granted to copy for personal use, to excerpt in reviews and replies, and to archive unchanged for electronic retrieval.