From: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com (RuneQuest Rules Digest) To: runequest-rules-digest@lists.ient.com Subject: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #134 Reply-To: runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Sender: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Errors-To: owner-runequest-rules@lists.ient.com Precedence: bulk RuneQuest Rules Digest Wednesday, November 28 2001 Volume 04 : Number 134 RuneQuest is a trademark of Hasbro/Avalon Hill Games. All Rights Reserved. TABLE OF CONTENTS Re: [RQ-RULES] Re: Magic points Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Re: [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 Re: [RQ-RULES] slaves & telmori Re: [RQ-RULES] slaves & telmori [RQ-RULES] Ping? [RQ-RULES] Softly Fade Away.... Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? [RQ-RULES] finnish glorantha society Re: [RQ-RULES] finnish glorantha society [RQ-RULES] Finnish Glorantha Society Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. 4. No anonymous posting, please. Don't say something unless you're ready to stand by it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:35:17 +0800 From: Jeremy Martin Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Re: Magic points I really like some of the comments here, with a few ideas: > > Treat MPs and POW as two separate characteristics. > > > > Let POW go up and down as previously (to avoid the headache of changing > > those well-entrenched rules). > > > > Allow several methods for increasing your MP stat by +X points above POW : Current POW? I mean, if you sacrifice or gain a point of POW, does your MP change as well, even though by now if might be very different? Would you also regain MP at POW/24 an hour, or would it go off your max MP? > > > > > * Turn 1 POW into 1D3 MP without the matrix hassle usually attached > > > > * Treat your MP number as if it were a RQ skill, with your Magic Bonus as basic > > "skill bonus". Roll 1D100 as usual. Frex, you have 57 MPs and a +12 Magic Bonus. > > You perform a worthy magical feat. Roll D00 +12 hoping to get better than 57, > > for +1D6 to your MPs. (My favourite option : not as munchkinish as it sounds) Then could you explain a 'worthy magical feat'? Seems very high-powered to me... Very easy to have close to 100 MP soon... > > > > * Spend 1 POW to turn any MP storage device into the same number of MP stat. > > (perhaps -1 or -1D3) (varying results according to enchantment skill) > > > > * And really, ANY other fun method for justifying MP increase... I'm really getting into the idea of Tatooists (probably a specialist shaman). These would be people with all the Enchanting skills that could give you a Magic Rune Enchantment that holds MP, etc., or temporary tatoos, like a Bladesharp 3 that fades after 3 uses. > > Stormbringer and Elric! allow open ended POW (and hence MP) increase. Is > there anything that breaks if that were generally permitted in RQ? > > I can see gaining an increase above normal "human max" perhaps requiring > some moderately special circumstance (e.g. a critical success in spirit > combat or other POWxPOW contest); but not necessarily to the level of a > Hero Quest or such. > Why not just give a minimum of 5% chance to increase POW, then? Give a normal check whenever they cast a spell, etc. But let the increase roll decrease down to a pretty low minimum - then you can have a character with 32 POW, but it'll take 20 more checks before he'll (probably) make the next roll to 33... Does anyone think that above-max POW is game-breaking? I haven't heard any arguments either way. Maybe a Journey or such to allow it, or a special Vow? Jeremy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:52:06 +0800 From: Jeremy Martin Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Spirit Combat and Intellect Spirits Tal Meta wrote: > Jeremy Martin wrote: > > > > Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any > > need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... > > Why would you? Divine spells don't take up any INT... Because I (an Orlanthi) could sac for two copies of Fly, then move it into an Intellect Spirit, so anyone in my group could use it. Or so one person could learn it from the Spirit. Essentially, you're spelltrading with no limitations, which would be superior to the Issaries' way. BTW, once the spell was cast, who would be able to get it back, the Spirit or the Orlanthi? Or neither, to balance things out? > > > Wizards with a pet intellect spirit trade spells at will (then relearn from > > their spellbooks, if forgotten). > > This works, though you only get a starting %age chance with the spell > when learned this way. And then only when in contact with the binding > object for the spirit. > 'Only when in contact'? I thought this whole chain was about being able to 'steal' the spell from an Intellect Spirit, not just borrow it. Once it's in your Free INT, you don't need the Spirit around anymore. Jeremy *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:55:32 +0800 From: Jeremy Martin Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Re: RuneQuest Rules Digest V4 #127 Good. I agree as well, I was mostly testing and wondering about the whole Intellect Spirit transfer thing, before someone's players come up with it... Thanks, Jeremy "Andrew O. Mellinger" wrote: > >Jeremy: > > > >> Can a Divine spell be stored in an intellect spirit? This would negate any > >> need for Issaries' spell trading abilities... > > > >No. A Rune Magic spell is not stored in Free INT and therefore > >cannot be transferred to an intellect spirit, only sorcery spells and > >spirit spells can. > > In my view Divine spells are essentially divine powers one is > granted by their connection to their god. If is via the worshippers > emulation and similarity that they are able to channel the abilites > of their god. So looking at it from this perspective, I'd definitely > have to agree with Nikk. > > I would almost be like transferring you initiate link through an > intellect spirit. Ick. > > -Andrew > -- > /*----------------------------------------------------------------- > mailto:andrew@crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com > -----------------------------------------------------------------*/ > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 00:13:22 +0100 From: "Paul.S:Sommer" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] slaves & telmori Just three quick questions 1.Slaves in glorantha? are they common or not? 2.Telmori ? are they vunerable to normal weapons or just silver ones,drowning ,rune metals etc 3.where are those darn searchable runequest rules list & glorathna hidden on the internet ? Many thanks Paul Sommer Danmark *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:00:23 +0100 From: St=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=phane FRANCOIS Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] slaves & telmori > 1.Slaves in glorantha? are they common or not? This varies greatly with the culture. For example the Lunar own slaves, there is a slaver culture somewhere in Pamaltela, but the Agimori of Prax ("Men-and-a-half") doesn't (a slave wouldn't be able to resist their way of life), like some orlanthis. > 2.Telmori ? are they vunerable to normal weapons or just silver ones,drowning > ,rune metals etc They have the werewolf immunities only when if wolf form (either through Nysalor's malediction or their divine magic) *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:01:32 -0600 From: "S.S.Warlock" Subject: [RQ-RULES] Ping? Is this list still active? David *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:27:43 -0500 From: Tal Meta Subject: [RQ-RULES] Softly Fade Away.... Just a reminder folks, that those of you still on this list and not the new one, that this one is due to croak at the end of the month. The new list sign-up is located at http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo/rq-rules. Please take actions as appropriate. - -- talmeta@optonline.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine AIM - talmeta ICQ - 12594453 Homepage - "See this button? It's the history eradicator button." *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:43:02 -0500 From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? define active? ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.S.Warlock" To: "Runequest List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: [RQ-RULES] Ping? > Is this list still active? > > David > > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:27:18 +0200 (EET) From: Olli Kantola Subject: [RQ-RULES] finnish glorantha society Is it okay to spam the old an the new list about our immanent glory? It is going to be a short message. Some general info and an invitation to our first meeting. Olli Kantola *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:59:37 -0500 From: Tal Meta Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] finnish glorantha society Olli Kantola wrote: > > Is it okay to spam the old an the new list about our immanent glory? > > It is going to be a short message. Some general info and an invitation to > our first meeting. Sure, it's loosely RQ related. :) - -- talmeta@optonline.net - Heretic, Dilettante, & God-Machine AIM - talmeta ICQ - 12594453 Homepage - Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:00:27 +0200 (EET) From: Olli Kantola Subject: [RQ-RULES] Finnish Glorantha Society I am proud to announce that Finland will be getting it's own Glorantha association on 8.12.2001. The organization will start printing its own magazine that will include background material, adventures, etc. RuneQuest and some variants and Hero Wars will be supported. Anyway. This isn't an announcement. This is an invitation to our first meeting. So if you are a finn, please read the text below, if not, then just skip this post. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suomen Glorantha-kansan kokoontuminen 8.12.2001 Nyt on aika suomalaisten gloranthafiilien yhtyä! Tarkoituksenamme on perustaa Suomeen Glorantha-aiheinen yhdistys, joka tukee jäsentensä harrastusta. Yhdistyksen tulevaisuus on vielä hieman avoin. Toivoisimmekin sinun kantavan kortesi kekoon osallistumalla perustamiskokoukseen. Yhdistyksen toimintaan tullaan luultavasti ottamaan mallia saksalaiselta Chaos Societyltä. Sen verta on varmaa, että yhdistys tulee julkaisemaan lehteä, joka tulee sisältämään artikkeleita niin suomalaisilta, kuin joiltain ulkomaisilta huippunimiltä. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perustamiskokouksen päivämäärä 8.12.2001, paikka Töölön kirjasto, Helsinki, klo 12 (Aikataulu: aloitus n. klo 12, jotta samana päivänä ehtivät ei-helsinkiläisetkin mukaan. Kokoukselle varataan aikaa n. 2½ - 3 tuntia. Tauon jälkeen kiinnostuneet jatkavat lehden suunnittelua?) 1 Kokouksen avaaminen, puheenjohtajan, sihteerin ja ääntenlaskijoiden valinta kokoukselle 2 Sääntöluonnoksen esittely kokoukselle ja keskustelu 3 Yhdistyksen nimiehdotusten esittely, keskustelu ja nimen 4 Yhdistyksen toimintamuodoista keskustelu, ehdotettu mm. - oman lehden julkaiseminen (käsitellään erikseeen) - www-sivujen luominen yhdistykselle (sisältö?) - coneihin tms. osallistuminen / järjestäminen - www-sivujen luominen yhdistykselle (sisältö?) - muu julkaisutoiminta - muut ehdotukset, tavoitteet jne. 5 Hallituksen koon ja virkojen päättäminen, hallituksen valinta vuodelle 2001-2. 6 Rekisteröitymismaksun hoitaminen, yhdistyksen jäsenmaksun päättäminen 7 Yhdistyksen tilin perustaminen (?) 8 Jäsenrekisterin perustaminen (kerätään e-mail tms. osoitteet halukkailta) 9 Yhdistyksen perustamiskirjan allekirjoittaminen 10 Kokouksen päättäminen Huom. Kokouksen aika ja paikka ovat vielä hieman auki. Asiasta kiinnostuneet voivat ottaa minuun (Olli Kantola ) yhteyttä ja varmistaa asian lähempänä kokousta. Päivämäärä on kuitenkin jo lukkoon lyöty. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaikki alkoi Tero Kaijan perustamalta RuneQuest foorumilta. Kesän aikana foorumilla käydyt innokkaat keskustelut johtivat tapaamiseen Ropeconissa. 'Conin jälkeen sana levisi ja foorumille tuli uusia keskustelijoita. Eräällä foorumilaisella oli ajatus lehden perustamisesta. Lehtiprojekti johti pian keskusteluihin yhdistyksen perustamisesta ja tässä sitä nyt ollaan. Tällä hetkellä foorumilla on lähemmäs sata henkilöä keskustelemassa Glorantasta, RuneQuestista ja Hero Warssista. Lehtiprojekti on pyörähtänyt käyntiin ihan mukavasti ja toivottavasti nin käy yhdistyksellekkin. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olli Kantola *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Nov 2001 13:26:00 -0800 From: Sloth Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" wrote: > define active? > ken > > Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. > Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. Please Ken, for Yelm's sakes, please think of a new saying for your email signature. Did you ever meet Gary Gygax?? When I met him in 1983 he was an Arrogent, Selfish, conceited S.O.B. who's ideas were mostly stolen from co-creators and other writers & artists. IMO of course. Sloth " nothing beats a good first impression." "Snakes? Why'd it have to be snakes?! " Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:20:13 -0500 From: "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? Yes I have met him, in fact I had him over to my house last year during a convention for lasagna dinner. I find him to be charming if a bit opinionated. I am on his mailing lists and we talk about once every 6 weeks or so. I am sorry that you had such a bad meeting with him. ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sloth" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? > "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" wrote: > > define active? > > ken > > > > Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. > > Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. > > > Please Ken, for Yelm's sakes, please think of a new saying for your email signature. > Did you ever meet Gary Gygax?? > When I met him in 1983 he was an Arrogent, Selfish, conceited S.O.B. who's ideas were mostly stolen from co-creators and other writers & artists. > IMO of course. > > Sloth > > " nothing beats a good first impression." > > "Snakes? Why'd it have to be snakes?! " > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe runequest-rules' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Subject: Re: [RQ-RULES] Ping? - --0-488761418-1006988757=:53706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have to agree with Sloth - Elric used better grammar too - if I recall correctly. I never played much d&d - but I remember gygax as a coke addicted egotist ex insurance salesman who made poorly thought out 'modules'. Is the runequest list on this serving to go out in flames? Geoff - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. - --0-488761418-1006988757=:53706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I have to agree with Sloth - Elric used better grammar too - if I recall correctly. I never played much d&d - but I remember gygax as a coke addicted egotist ex insurance salesman who made poorly thought out 'modules'. Is the runequest list on this serving to go out in flames?

Geoff

 


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