Re: Re: Larnsti and other topics

From: Alex Ferguson <abf_at_...>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:27:25 +0000

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 07:10:44PM -0000, jeffrichard68 wrote:
> I know diddly-squat about Jorkandros. I think he should be of a
> different flavor with the Assiday lot - probably an old campaigning
> associate of Fazzur and the Provincial Army.

Sounds logical. I have pretty much 'all change' happen after 1613 in terms of the visible garrisonning, since presumably there's a degree of 'troop rotation' that happens in any case, and the people on the political assendency are going to want "politically reliable" types under them if they can manage it.

> > Doesn't Shargash kill (or bind?) Umatum or some such cognate(ish)
> > entity? Close enough for mythic work.
> No - Shargash breaks Umath who then becomes bunches of storm gods.
> Different myth altogether IMO. Not what the Lunars want. They want
> to kill RT. Maybe this is a new, novel Lunar-DH myth?

I think there's enough ambiguity in the Dara Happan myths that Umath and Orlanth are substitutable. (Indeed I think GRAY in at least one place identifies RT as Umatum.) At least to a degree; argue about sit-mods to taste...

I don't recall it being explicit in the DH myth that Umath 'becomes' lots of different storm gods, but equally they do have access to the Orlanthi take on this, so perhaps they'd be wary of doing so on that account. But equally, Orlanth in one sense _has_ already become bunches of storm gods, to wit the Thunder Brothers. OiD portrays it as a more extreme effect, but that'd be broadly consistent with general Lunar goals -- destroy the Orlanth cult as a unified entity, 'manage' the resultant disparate sub-cults on a case-by-case basis. (Acceptable, needs light Lunarisation, extirpate immediately...)

I don't imagine there's a a myth about killing Orlanth in an way that's any more monomythically identifiable as Big O as such. After all, in Orlanthi myth he never 'dies'... If one wanted to produce a 'revisionist mythology' version of a means of killing him, perhaps a "warped LBQ" would be the natural place to start.

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