Re: Re: FOUNDATION DOC: Forces and Numbers

From: Gianfranco Geroldi <giangero_at_...>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:08:00 -0800 (PST)

yes, I agree. If the Lunars have to control a city that big (with several hundred well armed defenders), I suppose at least 5000 troops would be a reasonable number. Not all crack troops of course, a lot of average fighters and a thousand of so of specialists in storming (ehm) the walls and in siegecraft.  

> I think the core of the troops should, for the most
> part, and
> certainly at the beginning, be DH types. I think
> that Jorgandos as
> a DH (and IMHO) Polaris-type would be happiest with
> a phalax or
> two. Which was the Phalanx based out of Yuthuppa
> again - Beryl?
> (Where is Martin when you need him!)

No, I disagree with the heavy Dara Happans numbers and even command. I even think that the marble phalanx at Pavis is controversial, but in this instance I would not say that a Polaris General would appear with a whole DH regiment to attack WW in 1619. There are just three DH tradtional phalanxes in the whole Lunar Army. The Provincial Army HQ is not so stoopid as to waste one in assaulting a fortified city (what help would an hoplite force be in attacking a city? Use up those highlanders, axemen and maybe a Pelandan half regiment and just show off some antelope lancer squadron to scary off the hairies).
No, to me Jorkandros is a Sairdite. Those pesky Alakoring Commanders are useful to fight Heortlings since they are not scared by those boastful screams! Let the Buserians around (as advisors and monitors) anyway. They are a damn good dramatical device.

> I also think that Fazzur would be more than happy to
> keep as many DH
> troops out of the limelight (and loot, etc) of the
> main invasion of
> Heortland and would certainly like to keep his
> huscarls close to
> himself.

mh. The main invasion of heortland comes from the coast (IMO). The only elite forces are used up there, I think. They have mounted a grand surprise attack all the way from Moonbroth and Corflu. They are well-prepared, not so big in number (because they are ship-freight and surprise attackers) and disciplined. This sounds to me as a modern Lunar unit or two. Maybe even Aronius Jaranthir knights (a squadron) because they need to scary the Aeolian and Malkioni lords in Coastal Heortland.
Dara Happans are slow to move and unapted to hilly ground. Mass them against Esrolia to prevent a counter-strike from that side, strategically speaking, in 1618-1619.

> Of course when WW becomes much more important and
> Tatius takes
> control I see much more of the lunar characteristic
> of the army
> comming into play. Possibly a few of the heartland
> corps get into
> the act, I've always liked the steel swords so
> wouldn't mind seeing
> them get a look-in.

agree!

> Also, who are the "7 of Vistor". Do we have any
> other info on
> them? Should they be classed in the magicians
> section or in the
> siege train?

definetly a Lunar unit. Modern and flexible. Maybe both Magician and Siege light Unit (light in comparison to the heavy craters)  

> > labour and cannon fodder. Probably
> understrength due to
> desertion
> > - say 1500.

I would pump up that number. 2500 arrow and sling fodder seems right.

> I do think that there should be a small company of
> light cavalry as
> a quick reaction force to any breakout attempts and
> to make any
> smuggling or small raids a lot harder. Probably not
> the Char-Un,
> however as we know that the surrounding tribes are
> pro-lunar and 3
> years with a Char-Un regiment "foraging" in the area
> would soon put
> an end to that! Perhaps some Sables?

In my scenario I envisioned some foraging parties of Sables. Evenly from Prax and from the Hungry Plateau. Among the Hungry Plateau sables, maybe even a band of Yara Arani.

> > You also should include the siege train, maybe a
> couple of
> hundred. I
> > don't think they would appear before 1620 after
> the failure of the
> > bat attack.

Just a couple of hundred? And the labour force? Add a five hundred slaves hired from any sartarite clan on the road. They would provide a funny problem for the Volsaxi (when they are winning): should we free those fellows or finish up that regiment? The indecision could provide time for the Imperials to regroup and push back the Garrison of Whitewall's sortie.  

Gian



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