> > I don't like the idea of making the Yggites less violent.
>Less violent? Not necessary. Less unrestricted in whom they subject
>to that violence is what I am aiming at.
I'm really not hearing any difference. To me, it's like the distinction between slaves and thralls that you were earlier suggesting we make.
> > The
> > Yggites are the people who sack holy places and draw
> > disrespectful cartoons of the Invisible God. They were
> > even eating children when Dormal contacted them (Missing
> > Lands p44).
>Common effect of the Ban, really.
No, it's not. I don't recall Loskalm or Jonatela having this problem. I
>I don't think that they remained at this diet when there was
>an alternative.
So they just got over it when the Opening came? I seriously doubt that happening. Societies don't give up customs like that.
>The Dara Happans ate Gerra during the Greater Darkness.
Except there happens to be a great deal of difference between something allegedly done during the Great Darkness and something that our parents did some fourty odd years before.
> > You make it sound like there's some conscious choice on their
> > part. There isn't. The Gods chose whom they want as priests.
>Doesn't resonate with me. Someone chosen by the Vadrudi gods becomes
>a berserk rather than a humble (if irate and nasty) slave.
Who said anything about humble? If you are going to go through my ideas critiquing them line by line, could you actually deal with what I wrote?
> >> That takes a very twisted male Vadrudi.
> > Or, more likely, an unfortunate one.
>A loser? Not "one of us" any more, then. Your picture makes
>this "priesthood" sound like a bunch of nasty tricksters tolerated
>by the rest.
How do you think the Vadrudi gods will deal with their worshippers in such a way that it fits Vadrudi society?
> > In Orlanthi myth. Do you really expect the Winter King will see
> > things that way?
>You have to take his relation to Himile in account, too, not just the
>Orlanthi myths. Twice subservient.
Who says he's subservient to Himile? The Vadrudi believe their gods are the strongest. Anything else is foreign lies.
> > By finding a godling or spirit and beating the crap out of it
> > on the material world.
>Unless the spiritual landscape of northern Fronela is exceptionally
>rich, an inconsequential source of magic.
How many animists are there in Fronela? Virtually all of them have spirits. If an animist sends a spirit against a Vadrudi, then that's something he can beat up. Theists are a wee bit trickier but their divine magic could be treated as a godling.
> > Why should the Valindi and "below the ice" others part from the
> > Vadrudi? Why is there this need to make them nicer.
>In order to create a marginally sustainable society. Either live on
>as very few demigods carrying on the early Storm Age ways, or find a
>way to survive as humans. Making compromises.
If they were making compromises, they wouldn't be a marginally sustainable community. The Vadrudi are just as marginal as the Broos, the Trollkin and the Scorpion Folk but you don't see them making compromises.
> > What's wrong with Destor? If you portray him as a bandit rather
> > than an adventurer, he appeals to the Vadrudi nicely.
>Who did he slay?
Numerous foes not worth knowing the names of.
--Peter Metcalfe
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