>> The analogy would be someone from London leaving a
>> note saying 'September
>> 19th 1940: Jennie killed by bomb'.
>
> I'm afraid it's more like a history of WW2, written in
> say the '50s, omitting the Battle of Britain.
Minaryth's little note is not a complete history. It's more events that are particular to him or things he is *happy* to record (like Kallyr's wedding). The FW is neither of those.
> CHDP was written as a "history" and had to detect as
> True in front of LM witnesses, but to flatter the
> ruler to whom it was presented: Argrath. So it skips
> over little points of regicide and a civil war,
> re-writes lighting the Flame to seem as if Argath did
> it... why did it skip the Fimbulwinter, and barely
> mention Iceland?
He wasn't there? For example, if Argrath is Garrath Sharpsword, he's having fun being a pirate, not freeing Orlanth, at this time. Oops, no good Orlanthi should have been off elsewhere enjoying himself at a time like that. Hmm, better not mention it then.
> Well, where was he, and which one are we talking
> about? There are multiple Argraths, and while we used
> to have nice theories that showed that several of them
> were (or at least, could be) actually the same person
> (who had had his parents killed when he was still a
> child, spent some time with foster-parents, and
> eventually ran away to Pavis where he was known as
> Garrath Sharp-sword), OiD explicitly separates these
> people out again.
Doesn't mean to me there has to have been five different people. I think that list in OiD is showing that you can, in your Glorantha, have five (Garrath, Jaldon, Maniskison, Venharlson, Brennason) but you can also have less if you want. I think its trying to allow flexibility, not definitively stating that the in the "true" (whatever that is) Glorantha they are five separate individuals (unless Greg says otherwise of course). Personally I'm pretty persuaded that Garrath's father's name was either Maniski or Venharl (probably the former), giving four individuals, not five but that's just me (and my Glorantha).
> Or, could either of these two Argraths have been among
> the traitors who turned to the Lunar Way? The Argrath
> who eventually becomes Prince is remarkably adept at
> forming magical units, and merging different forms of
> magic - I wonder where he learnt that? He seems to
> have happily joined in the Tarsh civil wars on the
> Fazzurite side: I wonder where they had previously met
> and become allies? And, if either Argrath (I still
> suspect these two are the same person!) were at
> Iceland - which side were they on?
Is he? Or does he just have someone that can do it for him?
Try this. Not meant to be definitive, just one possibility among many
Argrath is Garrath Maniskison. Not at Iceland, off playing at being a pirate. Not something you want to highlight - it being the first real magical success of the rebellion. Can't even write him a bigger part than he actually had, like at the Dragonrising, where he participated but didn't lead. At least he was there and we can embroider his part. Have to leave it out then. Venharlsson? Oh he worked for the lunars for a while, but eventually served Argrath really well by organsing the magical regiments. Don't want to talk too much about Argrath using a double turncoat though - play that one down too.
I like the possibilities offered by the list in OiD. I don't want it pinned down how many individuals are "actually" behind those five (in some cases partial) names. Leave it to each persons Glorantha to resolve those things.
Michael
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