Re: The Trouble with Insravel

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_klIxaMA6sgcs09iq-Gb3OxNLZ5jAfGHqTOoSa2qGEXRPtcMjhAii-oGgPRXgzj7l6rl>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:37:10 +1200

At 05:36 p.m. 26/03/2007, you wrote:
>Peter Metcalfe wrote:
>"Both sides saw each other's god as false, misconceived, a manifest
>error etc. But that does not mean that Syranthir saw _Malkion_ as the
>corrupting God. The Carmanians still rever him in the form of Malakinus."
>
>Peter Metcalfe wrote in Glorantha: Introduction to the Hero Wars
>"This doctrine (the Doctrine of the Hidden Mover) reveals the ultimate
>identity of God as Irensavel, totally separate from the world.
>Irensavel precedes the creation of even matter or energy. Five
>centuries ago the God Learners suppressed this doctrine, but its truth
>was more powerful than the God Learners. According to the Loskalmi,
>the corrupt God Learner's god, Makan, was unveiled as an evil demiurge
>that sought to ensnare the ignorant into the world of matter so that
>they would never know Solace."

>How do you reconcile these two statements? If Syranthir did not see
>Makan as a corrupting God or an evil demiurge, what was the problem
>between Syranthir and the God Learners?

The first statement specified _Malkion_ rather than Makan. There is a great deal of different between the two. Malkion is a general name given to God by the westerners. Makan and Irevensavel are specific names for facets of Malkion.

So to sum it up, Syranthir considered Makan to be a false image of Malkion.

>What is the difference between the Loskalmi and Syranthir?

It depends on whether you are asking about the imperial age Loskalmi or the Modern age. The modern Loskalmi have reconciled the Abiding Book with their belief in the Hidden Mover. The Imperial Age Loskalmi are in a state of spiritual turmoil between the compelling truths of the Abiding Book and their traditional beliefs.

>I thought he was fighting on behalf of the Ecclesiarch of Southpoint.

Syranthir was fighting for what he believed in. Nobody knows the attitude of the Ecclesiarch as he may have taken either side in the war.

>When I first began playing RuneQuest I thought that Malkionism was
>like the Roman Church (not a good parallel).

For the Seshnegi, the pre-reformation Church is a good parallel.

--Peter Metcalfe