>Ah. So, the women are less accepting than the men are of, say Vinga?
Different modes of acceptance/rejection. For me, Heortling Women have a very finely developed 'clandar', judging others and themselves by complicated formulae nested around loyalty to birth clan, loyalty to marriage clan, worth to clan as a provider/defender/leader, marriageability, fertility and ritual potency. It reflects the journey of most married women from their birth clan to a new home among strangers, slowly proving themselves, investing in the clan of their children and rising to be an epitome of marriage clan loyalties and values.
>Just as Vingans are not allowed to spy on male ceremonies? =)
I wasn't thinking of Nandans in this case. :)
>Sauce for the goose is, afterall, sauce for the gander.
Sure. There's always going to be an enormous range of variation in acceptance/rejection hidden beneath our gratuitous keywording.
> > So if you're determined to start weaving its a major heroquest
>from
> > scratch, probably including a journey to that place where all
> > Heortling failures go: to town.
> >
>A major heroquest? I really don't think that's the case.
I was being mildly ironic/humorous, a common mode of expression for me, hopefully reflected in the 'failures' comment.
I wuz being ironic above. I'm not now. Put it down to a failure in cross-cultural communication, always fraught with difficulty in these perilous times. It started the Hero Wars, you know. :)
>To me, this is almost as bad as
>the attitude of "Vinga can do anything Orlanth can, but better."
Bad? As a motivational pyschology in a cultural realm where disparagement and rejection are common? As a mythic impulse reflected in the great stories (Not as AOCDVCDB, but as "I Act To Make Allfather Proud"). As a powergaming tendency among certain players to use the cult because of its relative wealth of neat mojo? As a Gloranthan truth? These are all very different things.
>Now, I suppose I shall have to go and do a proper long-form writeup
>of Nandan. I had one lying around for Storm Tribe. Now to find it.
Yes, please. I for one still find the concept a bit nebulous. I need to play a character or write something.
John
(BiLon "Opus" Aoikoori - red-nosed magellanic flatfanny - He who
humbly wears with ancestral pride the death kamon of the Blue Ice
penguin keets, preserving cosmic harmony, practicing bushi do and
balancing eggs on toes since 1604 ST. "Fuurinkahizan! - Warm against
the wind, Calm like a kelp forest, Vigilant like the distant sun,
Invincible like an iceberg")
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