> --- In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com, Michael Hitchens
> <michaelh_at_...> wrote:
>> When does an ogre stop being an ogre (if ever)? Anaxial's roster
> gives a
>> typical ogre "crave human flesh 15". So I guess they would have to
> roll
>> against that with something like "strong willed" if they wanted to stop
>> themselves gorging. Of course, most ogres don't want to stop,
> unless it
>> will get them exposed, but anyway, consider one who does, say an ogre
>> orphan brought up by humans not knowing what it was. If the craving
> stat
>> is a "normal" flaw, could an ogre "buy it down"? What happens to an
> ogre
>> who doesn't crave human flesh, let alone eat it?
>
> Here's a point where I'd guess some "solutions" to the Ogre nature
> would work in all or almost all cultures (to the extent of the Ogre no
> longer being Chaotic, or an Ogre), while others might not.
>
> Becoming a Troll looks like a fairly straightforward (if demanding)
> way to streamline and normalize the Ogre hunger. Since it would
> involve a race-change, it might also scrub away the Chaos, though the
> resulting troll might retain a chaos taint or not depending upon the
> process used. If successfully turned into a troll, the ogre would be
> seen as a troll by others, too. That wouldn't prevent the new troll
> from being corrupted by Chaos, but it would represent a fresh start of
> sorts.
Sounds reasonable
> As an Orlanthi-centric player, I haven't followed all of the Lunar
> materials out there as carefully as I might have, but I'm guessing
> that the Red Moon cult might have ways to "convert" an ogre away from
> Chaos without changing the ogre's race. In these cases, members of
> some cultures might continue to see the ogre as a Chaotic creature.
> An Urox unable to smell Chaos on said ogre would probably attribute it
> to foul Lunar magics and kill the thing anyway.
With the lunar attitude to chaos I'm not sure they'd see the need to convert an ogre away from chaos. I suspect all they'd want to do is encourage the ogre to stop eating people - or lunar citizens at least.
Michael
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