And the newtlings are amphibian, not draconic. Yet there is a link between them and the dragonewts.
>There's no
>indication of the draconic access to the ultimate, either.
Simply because we have bugger-all information about the Slarges from their own view.
> > Since the Genertelan and Kralori myths don't really have much to say
> > about each other (to the extent that the Dragonewts and the Kralori
> > call each other liars),
>Do you mean the Central Genertelan 'newts, or the Kralorelan ones?
Does it matter?
> > you can hardly use that as evidence that the
> > Sea Dragons are not draconic.
>
>Unlike Thrunhin Da and lesser forms similar to her, the Sea Dragons
>are part of the Merfolk mythology.
This is a flawed argument. The Merfolk themselves appear in Vithelan myth yet are not mystical. The Waertagi are not Merfolk. There is nothing to prevent Thrunhin Da from appearing in Merfolk mythology and considering that she is the ancestor of the Zabdamar, she does.
> > Pretty poor in what way? That knights cannot have tales about
> > fighting dragons?
>Carmanian knights have lots of such tales, and Ralian and Seshnegi
>ones might in Ormsland, too.
So you don't see any evidence for the Loskalmi and Seshnegi fighting dragons in their own country. Does that mean they cannot have possibly fought any dragons there whatsoever? What about Herjan the Raider then? What about the dragonewts of fallen Seshnela?
>I don't see any evidence for dragon
>presence on Danmalastan, though (even Waertag's conquered Sea Dragons
>were brought in from outside).
Apart from Zzabur speaking of a True Being who "became a dragon that ate all the dead things and shat out a new generation of things to fight and kill" or of Desdoram who placed his head in the serpent's jaw? (Revealed Mythologies p2).
> > Vith is not and never has been a dragon. The Kralori TarnGatHa is
> > the dragon Dogsalu in Vithelan mythology.
>Maybe, but Vith is TarnGatHa in Kralori myth.
No, the source says that TarnGatHa is equated with Vith which is not the same thing.
>And no, the God Learner equation of TarnGatHa with Aether (in
>RuneQuest Companion's Jonstown snippets) doesn't mean that
>the Yelmic pantheon is draconic in origin.
As far as I'm concerned that's a Teshnan version of the same myth.
> > I'm thinking the Snake-whiskered dragon is actually the Green
> > Dragon. It would mean that he would have to leave his resting
> > place for a jaunt to the Nights of Horrors though.
>There is no mention of snake whiskers.
Does there need to be? Does a hero have to get so close to the green dragon and provide eye-witness testimony before you concede otherwise?
>And the Brown Dragon is Dreng resurfacing? Dead for a given value of dead?
The name is Drang and no, Drang wasn't a True Dragon. By that logic the Sun Dragon wasn't either. So I'm currently thinking that the Dragon Sun Emperor manifested attributes of the Sun Dragon and very few were able to tell the difference.
> > They are a rank below True Dragons. I don't think they are
> > Dream Dragons but equivalent in power and spiritual status
> > to noble and ruler dragonewts.
>Are they in any way related to the Kralori dragonewts?
Some are, others are not.
>I think that taking part in the Dragonkill is the activation of all
>dragon magic in Kralorela.
While the Dragonkill may have been part of an awesome eruption of draconic energies, to suggest that the Kralori took place presumes that the Inhuman King is the only true heir of draconic tradition which is something the Kralori deny. The Kralori would go so far as to argue that the War in Heaven was the primary event and that the Dragonkill was an aftershock.
>The War in Heaven may have been a reflection or extension of the
>slaughter of all those sun-worshippers from Peloria, probably
>including quite a few of their lesser deities. The False Dragon
>Priests losing their powers may well mean that by not responding to
>the call to Dragon Pass, they failed a test.
Except that the False Dragon's Ring did not lose all their true dragon powers in the War in Heaven, they lost them in 1051 in the Dragon's Awakening Shudder.
--Peter Metcalfe
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