> Mensagem Original:
> Data: 14:38:23 09/07/2007
> De: Chris Lemens <chrislemens_at_4OI66CVQGP6AWACu8_qGeUMyHTcd07WfSdks3VahYlUSdBkXmwNXv1TLJnRZmEGimWgwGo-87I56c5yO_w.yahoo.invalid>
> Assunto: Re: "Proactive" spirits?
> Sam:
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>> > The next best way is to become a guardian for a hero band. In
>> > Prax, the White Bull spirit is one such. It has an agenda.
>>
>> Where can I read about this agenda?
>
> Well, on my hard drive mostly. You can work backwards from some of
> King of Sartar. If you really want to know more, mail me off list.
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>> Yes, it is probably these specific agenda(s?) I'm wondering about. I agree
>> that they may have the full range of motives but I can't quite work out how
>> some of them apply, except for the ancestor business.
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> I think you have to get specific to get specific. It is not usually
> anything to do with their spirit nature. It will usually be their
> specific nature that matters. As examples, there are ancestor
> spirits, plant spirits, animal spirits, elemental spirits, place
> spirits, demons, etc. The animal spirit might have an agenda as
> small as reasserting its traditional breeding or hunting grounds.
> Elemental spirits probably want to be pure, or something like that.
> Demons, well, who the hell knows; that's the point of demons, right?
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>> > I would say that, at a mininum, they have nearly the full range
>> > of human reasons. Some may be trying to make the just from being
>> > a heroband guardian to being an independent practice.
>>
>> Power then. Is it really so important to a spirit?
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> Note that I said "some" advisedly. Some people also just want to be
> worshipped. We call them celebrities!
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>> Maybe. Is interaction with the mundane world going to help them
>> achieve whatever
>> it is they need to do in their own world, as is the case in reverse?
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> Those would be the ones you run into. Since the hero plane and
> spirits world are static without mundane world intervention, all
> spirits not happy with the current state of affairs must make
> themselves available to active forces in the mundane plane.
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>> There's something I'm trying to work out here, not quite sure
>> what. Bottom line, I think, is...is a spirit gonig to come up to
>> someone and say, please could you put me in your medicine bundle?
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> It would be unusual -- so much so that a shaman's guard would be up.
> But I am sure it happens, especially to player characters. This is
> essentially how animist spirit bands get their guardians.
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> Chris
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