Re: Initiate v. Practitioner

From: Toread DuDerysi <jakyer_at_599H7nF4v4iGWbX4a509kDAbDp4-BwLpPOuNx_-bAiTHL3j_ENtbcapMlOeAPPpxXxm5->
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0000

Yes. Lets try this again. I've lost this post four times now thanks to Yahoo's wonderful interface.

I do think that a re-reading of the relevant section of the rules would benefit both of us. However, the examples given for fetish and charm creation all seem to involve the intervention of a shaman. So I do not think that practitioners are as independent as you might think, but I could be wrong. Now, a spirit-chief or shaman, certainly.

There is a lot of more to being a shaman than just the ability to tame hostile spirits or to visit the spirit plane and deal with spirits as an equal. I strongly suspect that a spirit looted from a fallen foe is just that - hostile - and the looter is not going to make up to it without the spiritual equivalent of a box of chocolates and a romantic dinner. I just don't think its a trivial matter to pick them up and subborn them, especially not if they belong to an alien or hostile tradition. Fetishes in one tradition or practice may actually be taboo to another. The Animal Tail fetishes belonging to Zong trolls are anathema to the Praxians. And I suspect the hsunchen take a dim view of Beast Charms used by Odayalans (and Yinkini). Heck, I suspect that charms of differening husunchen may be verbotten - a pralori might get into a lot of trouble for using a temori spirit. On the other hand, a Telmori might just EAT an elk spirit.

Jeff            

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