Re: Portraying magic

From: David Crowell <gpfdavid_at_7WvjZU-Kto6HnbEZBNviBz_iAyw8oUgTSFPsOxu6y3Q9mHcun6TEUXEdPe1WG5hdQEp>
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 08:27:24 -0400


Part of the problem here may be one of loose translation of proper Gloranthan terms into English by a variety of authors and editors.

As i see it "Initiate" is anyone who has been formally accepted into a Cult and taught some portion of its doctrine. This establishes the basic relationship with the deity. Higher degrees of initiation bring knowledge of the deeper cult Mysteies, but not neccessarily a closer affinity with the god.

"Acolyte" is one who has a deeper connection with the deity,and more access to divine magic. They have found favour with the god. Accolyte is a word I often use to describe initiates who are in training for priesthood.

A "priest" is a ritual performer. This is more a hierarchical position than a spiritual one.

Especially in "culture games" like Glorantha I freely alter the terminology used in both game mechanics and world information to better reflect the situation as I see it. cheers,

--dave

  Second, there is the subject of whether a practitioner of Theist magic   should be a priest or not. In the "old way", i.e. in RQ 1-4, you had to   be a priest or acolyte to performe the most powerful theist magic. This   is no longer true in HQ: an Initiate is a person who has a deeper degree   of Affinity with his god and his principles, to the point that he may   emulate his god with Feats if he is a Devotee, while a priest (godi or   god-talner), is the one who performs the Holy Rituals, i.e. the boring   stuff, and teaches others the cult doctrine. He has probably a higher   Relationship to the Cult, in HQ terms, but he is not closer to his god   or more capable of invoking him. It turned out that MRQ rules produce a   similar approach, intentionally or by mistake, by not making any   difference between Priest and Initiate. This is a bit of a rulesy   subject, but since most systems currently in use seem to point this out,   it would be a good idea to clarify this point in a debate that   supersedes the rules.

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