I should imagine that there are mythic ways for both Vingans and Nandans to both father and birth children, though they'd probably be a lot rarer than similar methods for Helerites (you're never alone with a Helerite...).
Can't help feeling Eurmal's stick gets involved somehow as well...
And to bring things down to gutter level...
A Vingan girl flashing her rune
Lured a Nandan lad up to her room
They argued all night
As to who had the right
To do what, and with which, and to whom...
On Dec 19, 2007 1:57 PM, <donald_at_z5GBtmL78SqGNgfDm7klVMhIoWFB7csBotjkad6i70YCzgV4ID5XUDJNdj4R3xfjxUMFtnUR91SQ-zIDI7540eU.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> In message <fkavpq+lusi_at_eGroups.com <fkavpq%2Blusi%40eGroups.com>>
> "ileskela" writes:
> >A question or five...
> >
> >I'm trying to figure out the degree runic associations (Death, Earth
> >and Air/Storm) effect individuals. I've understood Nandans cannot bear
> >a child, and that Vingans cannot father a child. If I'm right, the
> >runic associations actually cannot change biological/mythical sex. Am
> >I right?
> >
> >Can Humakti father/mother a child, or is their fertility power dead?
> >
> >Can Nandans father a child, or are they essentially women without wombs?
> >
> >Can Vingans mother a child, or are they essentially men without semen?
> >
> >Is there a difference between initiates and devotees of these cults?
> >
> >Thanks for any answers & insights.
>
> This is an area where there is a great variation between different
> Gloranthas. One that has been hotly debated in the past. So whatever
> your answer is it will agree with some and disagree with others. The
> best guide is what makes a good story for your game.
>
> As a rule of thumb I take the view that cult membership doesn't
> change anything physical. It is mainly a matter of behaviour
> patterns both for the individual and those they relate to. At higher
> levels of commitment it also affects the mental state of the
> individual.
>
> So while a Vingan could bear a child they generally don't, other
> clansfolk would regarded her poorly and she will have problems
> enacting myths.
>
> Same with Nandani, he shares women's space (the loom house) so
> the social consequences of fathering a child on someone else's
> wife would be dynamite.
>
> Remember that a Vingan marries a woman and a Nandani marries a
> man - if they get married. I'd best be clear - that doesn't assume
> homosexuality. It is a practice for handling the social problem of
> an imbalance between the sexes. The quote from KoS about all
> childless widows of the Kheldon dying their hair red is generally
> assumed to refer to them taking up the spear for revenge. Another
> interpretation is that there were so few men left that Vingan
> marriages were a way of keeping the clans together. Without husbands
> the widows would have returned to their birth clans causing enormous
> disruption.
>
> With Humakti the emphasis is more that few women would be prepared
> to bear a Humakti's child. They are banned by law from sharing
> the hearth of a pregnant woman so any closer involvment is bound
> to cause problems for the mother and/or baby. Childbirth is risky
> enough without increasing the dangers.
>
> --
> Donald Oddy
> http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/
>
>
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