Re: The Unholy Trio: Rephrasing the Question
>
> In message <giron5+g1mo_at_...> "pentallion" writes:
>
> >> If you are looking for heroic actions similar to human myths, I
> >>don't think they have any. The Heortlings survived because of
what
> >>Heort did. The broos survived because they had conquered the
world
> >>and all but destroyed it.
> >
> >Conquering the world and all but destroying it isn't "heroic"?
> >Sounds like they must have had some pretty badass heroes to
> >accomplish such a feat in the face of the likes of Orlanth, etc.
> >Hardly unheroic.
>
> I think the "heroic" force was chaos itself. The broo and other
> chaotic creatures were just tools. Which would make your God
> Learner another tool of chaos.
>
> >But this is essential to the plot. The God Learner in my story is
> >the missing element for why no Chaoticist has brought about the
end
> >of the world before now. As one poster here pointed out, the
> >Chaotics don't keep that kind of information of what their Gods
did
> >during the previous age. But a God Learner who had explored the
God
> >Plane thoroughly would know things that even the broos had
> >forgotten.
>
> How many lifetimes has he been doing this for? Maybe in your
> Glorantha a single human can cope with all the myths of several
> entire cultures including contradictory variations but not in
> mine. According to books like Thunder Rebels merely understanding
> a single great god is enough to prevent an individual from
> relating to the material world. I don't believe the God Learners
> as a group managed to investigate all the Gloranthan myths and
> even before then they were combining similar myths together which
> indicates they didn't really understand them.
>
> >Not a problem. I wasn't thinking of asking for approval to
publish
> >adventures about being the bad guys. It's just a campaign for my
> >group. However, the God Learner and what he wants to do makes for
> >an excellent villain and if you're ever interested in hearing my
> >ideas on using him in a campaign, I'd be happy to start another
> >thread on the idea. IMO, villains should be very fleshed out, not
> >just cardboard bad guys. Something they drill into you in
> >professional writing courses. I think you'd like this bad guy.
>
> Sure, flesh out the villain, it's something I like to do. If you
> do it well enough people can sympathise with him/her even though
> they dislike them. However gods aren't human villains (or heros)
> they are more human faces on natural forces. Orlanth is the
> storm, Thed is destructive lust. In many ways they are two
> dimensional.
>
> What I'm less comfortable with is the idea of a villain with only
> a heroband being able to significantly affect the entire world on
> the God plane. The Lunar Emperor who is at least a demi-god does
> this with the help of Sedenya and a community of hundreds of
> thousands. To me that's an important part of how Glorantha works.
> If your Glorantha varies as much as it seems to it is hardly
> surprising that helpful suggestions are lost among the "well my
> Glorantha doesn't work like that".
>
> --
> Donald Oddy
> http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/
>
I'm still waiting for some helpful suggestions actually. All I've
gotten is, well, I don't know what to call it. Besides a couple
people who actually made suggestions that related to what I was
asking for, I've been forced to defend the fact that I'm even asking.
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