Another guess at Belintar's motives

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:25:13 +0200


Selon Greg Stafford <glorantha1_at_hd5GRuDU-ZfhEDXwNMHdgU2ahO6fKhAfuZcgUvgkicOPiYKROJiQJlSIBbTH0Ch35xjtsnmoeRi8nzyDaaM0.yahoo.invalid>:

> > We don't know who he/it was, where/when he came from. There was never any
hint about his motivations for coming in and building over the Holy Country, killing Ezkkakeko, etc.

> That is correct. Nor did he ever give one
/// Perhaps he only explained them to the MoLaD candidates, and that's why they accepted to sacrifice their body to him ?

"I have brought harmony among all peoples and races, freeing you from war and disorder. Under my rule, we will all serenly walk into the next age, sheltered from the horrors of this one".

> That is not an inaccurate statement

/// OK.

He's just a survivor, like a healthier Delicti ?
> So think many : Some believe he is just such a vampire thing
/// Hm. Doesn't fit with what comes below, unless it used some "enthralling" power on the people he met. Why not, after all ?

> Why find such fault? But most of the people who actually interacted with
Belintar's Way were happy--more than just content /// Hm. Because they now understood His Vision, which he had explained to them ? Or because he had washed their brains and enthralled them (now I remember something about "zombie kings"...)

there's a general lack of political intrigue and division.
> Overtly, anyway. As hinted there, it is subsumed into the MoLaD quest.
/// Ah. Any dissenter that's worth it is brought to him, and... gets recruited for the MoLaD ritual, along with loyal followers. Perhaps to get them killed or transformed in the process.

Belintar kindly takes troubled people into his house to discuss maters with them. He points out the bigger picture. He does his best to alleviate the cause of the trouble of the common people. If it is an individual issue, or one of ambition, a solution has always been found in his house. /// Hm. He's either a Great Guy, or a complete fraud. Or both at the same time. Like Nysalor. Or the Red Goddess.

I always wondered why powerful, experienced characters would blindly believe a promise of eternal bliss and simply hand over their body to the Boss.

> the answer is simple: they don't. There is no "blind belief" whatsoever
> Everyone participating knows exactly what is in store, and the quest is
> voluntary. If a person is not already prepared, and voluntarily taking part, >
she cannot participate.
/// Hrm. Again, either they have been Touched by his wonderful project, or they have been conned / hypnotized / whatever to do this. Or both.

There must be some magical / mundane pressure hidden somewhere.
> Of course there is. What did Belintar show them in his house?
/// The original set of fangs from Vivamort ?

> I just looked to see Belintar's Book status. I knew I'd never finished writing
it. Much has been published already elsewhere (Sword story, etc.) /// What Sword story is that ?

> most of it, though, was to be large pieces of art--copies of freizes etc
> from the palace some pictures form inside his house
/// Interesting. Sounds like a sorcerous grimoire, or the AB itself. The meaning is in visual symbols which alter your state of mind, not in reading.

> From memory (not a quote) it says something like :
> "Here is the story of the world. Here is your story. Here is my story,
> written in the time of my life, to serve as a guide back for me. If you who
> are reading this are part of the legend, you know it. I will ask for your
> help to return."

/// Sounds like this is a book only for the MoLaD questers. The more you speak of this ritual, the more I realize how central it is for the whole Pharaoh / Living God story. Perhaps the whole Holy Country is just a pretext / catalyzer / whatever to get candidates for the MoLaD ritual. The rest (political power, etc.) is irrelevant to Belintar.

> Lady Jin An Parana, She of Blessing with Both Hands--she of such generosity
> that peasants sacrificed to her as if she was the goddess--was asked why she
> had participated in three quests, even though she had already lost in one.
> "Because he asked me for my help," she said.
/// What she Ernalda, Uleria, Chalana or from some other cult ?

> A lot of people were still waiting to be asked when Harrek sank the City of
> Wonders.

/// Sorryn, I don't understand what that sentence means here.            

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