Re: Connecting the dots between Anilla and Zaytenera

From: Greg Stafford <glorantha1_at_xBoAUGwfrlsXtsrTGlr01vA5TkvHdMcrmPoFCmHWmT84hUrX40uNDgf8U0OXipARE>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:31:06 -0500


YGWV Oh, unlucky folk to fall under my eye

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, julianlord <julian.lord_at_40ZHZHk0X5x5sFXEAHdRk-xQhIOenbJtD1QP4MfsIoxF8PXsGcj1imv32lDtnkKmb17DHmdJmvrPitdQ0uo7tg.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

> hcarteau :
>
> > I have just gotten a copy of Questlines II, in which there is an article
> by Greg
> > Stafford about the mythological "history" (cycles) of the Moon Goddess.
>

That is the first time it ever appeared in print, I believe

> It all
> > starts with Zaytenera (calle Verithurusus in this old article), an
> unmoving
> > white planet who begins follwing (elopes with ?) Umatum. If we follow
> GRoY
> > timelines, it happened "only" 75.000 years ago, 25.000 years after Yelm
> was
> > enthroned after separating from Ezelvetay the All. Even if these perfect
> numbers
> > all allegorical, there is a strict timeline here.
> >
> > What I'd like to know is, if there is one, the connection between old
> Anilla,
> > who "shone her blue light over the battles between Dragons and Giants",
> before
> > the Green Age, and Zaytenera the virginal White Moon. Any takers for this
> > question ?
>

Me!
No, there is no connection

>
> IIRC, that article is written from a Solar point of view ; and your
> proposed "Zaytenera called Verithurusus in this old article" is actually a
> bit dubious,

No, it isn{t dubious at all
It is a fact, provable through HQing with the chronoporters

> as there is no guarantee whatsoever either that these two are the same
> entity, or that these various Moons are even the same Moon in different
> guises, despite the contents of Solar and Lunar myths claiming this to be
> so.
>

No offense, but nonsense
YGWV as you wish
but in my Glorantha, these are the same entitiy without a doubt

>
> "before the Green Age" is also a bit flakey. :)
>

Yes, an unprovable fact to humans
however, entities (elves) who WERE there and remember say this is so

>
> The _God Learner_ point of view, for example, might be that all of this is
> just illustrating a natural devolution from the ideal and unique original
> Moon into a certain number of lesser Moons, different to each other in
> nature and powers and identity.
>

Yea, they might say that
Thery say alot of things that are not correct

>
> Another point of view is that 3rd Age Glorantha has at least two Moons ;
> the one big red obvious one, and the other being the invisible Blue one only
> sometimes visible as the blue streak.
>

that is so
whatever "moon" might mean
At one time it means "female celestial being," but that has changed over time

-- 
Greg Stafford
Game Designer


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