Access to healthcare in Glorantha (was 'SKoH: Nandan')

From: Richard Hayes <richard_hayes29_at_kWiz55Iq_7j7PWDN3bLJtW2vaCzXwRRCHlwfnWH5kPL25-z8UAL3_Sn9ITbz>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:07:21 +0000 (GMT)


On the subject of access to the most powerful healing magic being limited, does anyone remember the passage in "Things that love night", (a short story about a Lhankor Mhy private detective in Pavis, serialised in TotRM 12-14 (or similar)), in which the hero goes to the Chalana Arroy Temple in Pavis to ask for a fallen comrade to be resurrected?  
How different, if at all, is the current thinking on the availability of advanced healing?  
Whilst we are on the subject of Nandan, are we any nearer estabilshing whether  Nandan cultists are "men doing women's work" or "women trapped in men's bodies"? Or are there some of each? (Presumably there are no more Nandani in Sartar than there are Tricksters (possibly less), but the Nandani are much more socially acceptable).   
I haven't had the benefit of reading SKoH, but what I (possibly imperfectly) remember from Hero Wars was that other Orlanthi perceive Nandani as "men doing women's work", but the Nandani's secret is that actually they are "women trapped in men's bodies".  
Is it still true? (if it ever was?)
 
Also I vaguley recall Jeff saying (and if I have misquoted or misunderstood you, please accept my apologies and set the record straight) that the simplest explanation of Vinga is that Vinga is "How women worship Orlanth" (I think the post dated from when Vinga was not written up in great detail in the first HQ book about Sartar).  
By analogy, if one had to define the Nandani in one sentence, could one say Nandan is "How men worship Ernalda"?  
Richard Hayes

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_v7s9PexrbmxJ1_NxxKRJ1lgc0gzwbBzz5j4LbR2vbcBgnX0fiLjW-sxbDVzctaXQi4HxrMIbpeNMzyM.yahoo.invalid> Subject: Re: S:KoH Nandan?
To: WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 5:56

>> > She is often forced to choose who gets her best power, her greatest
>> healing.
>> > The choices are entirely hers--presumably based on her messages from
>> Chalana
>> > Arroy herself--the healing power tells her where it wants to go
>>
>> So what is the acceptable societal reaction to a healer who makes
>> socially
>> unacceptable choices?  If our clan has a feud with our neighbors, and my
>> sister
>> the CA devotee says her goddess tells her to follow the warband to battle
>> in
>> order to heal our enemies first even when we nicely ask her not to, what
>> can we
>> do about it?
>
>
> Nothing
> Or, anything you want, with consequences.

It's the same as asking your Humakti not to kill people in a feud, pretty please with honey on top. You are not arguing with a person, you are arguing with their god (assuming they are a Devotee, and really, why be anything else with the extreme Gods?). Your character probably would *know* not to ask her not to heal your enemies - it's what her goddess tells her to do, just like Orlanth tells you to climb Kero Fin and jump off, or Yinkin tells you to sleep around. Everyone gets told by their god to do stuff that society thinks is a bit wierd - except Orlanth and Ernalda, who *define* society, and therefor what they ask of you is "normal", even if it might seem a bit extreme if looked at from a 21st century real-world perspective.

CA is as rigidly "pro-Life" as Humakt is "pro-Death" (or "pro-Separation", at least), and her followers are as determined (or stubborn) as any Humakti. Tell her not to do something her goddess says to do? Yeah, that'll go over well. But assuming your clan has a CA Healer, they will know what to ask and, more importantly, what not to ask her to do.

RR
>From such a face and form as mine, the noblest sentiments sound like the
black utterances of a depraved imagination.


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