Re: Esvular, Aeolian Church, etc. in HQ2

From: Richard Hayes <richard_hayes29_at_y3I7-1rShE3ZTApjzLYgsHbIbEFEeBW61-pvzDcg6NJE04oWSM2ej02nh9-o>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:08:18 +0100 (BST)

I have a few questions on  the Esvularings:	1. Would it be fair to call the Esvularings henotheists? (With a particular interest in Heortling/Lightbringer gods as emanations of the Invisible God)
	2. What are the Esvulari names for their visible gods -- the Heortling names, Malkionised versions of those names, or neither?
	3. Within the Esvularing 'tradition', do some worshippers have access to feats from one favourite Orlanthi god as well as/instead of essence plane magic?
	4. Is it possible for an individual Esvularing to learn feats and essence plane magic? Under the old RQ rules this (and a mediocre set of sorcerous spells) would have been my solution (and it would have been a solution for Arkati as well), though MGWV. However I understand this sort of mixed advanced magic also breaks a major Gloranthan taboo, if not something akin to the natural laws of Gloranthan myth and magic. YGWV is important, but there must come a point at which YGWV is stretched so far that what you are doing "c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la Gloranthe" 
	5. Alternatively do the Esvularings have a Carmanian-style practice (only without the dualism), whereby only 'wizards' are directly involved with the Invisible God and perform essence plane magic, whereas people in other castes worship theistically whilst (perhaps) being dimly aware of an invisible god behind the visible gods, truly known only byh their wizards?
	6. Presumably Esvularing grimoires are not especially powerful, though they will reflect Lightbringer myths, and maybe some communication magic (which reflects their Kachasti roots). Can we assume that some Esvularing grimoires use Lightbringer myths to navigate and manipulate their parts of the Essence Plane? 
	7. Can one also taken it a step further and assume that many Esvularing grimoires are specific to an individual visible god, e.g. a grimoire of spells linked to Orlanth's myths, another for Issaries, another for Chalana Arroy 
Richard Hayes

From: Daniel <> To: Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 10:07
Subject: Re: Esvular, Aeolian Church, etc. in HQ2


Would Aeolians still have some normal saints of their own? Like St. Aeol himself, I suppose. Would lay members of Aeolism be able to initiate or even devote to Orlanthi gods and gain magic from them?

The fact that wizards are supposed to remind the gods what they're supposed to do certainly offers a pretty clear image of what their magic might be like, stylistically - using grimoires to compel the gods to manifest their powers in a certain way. The gods are supposed to serve the Invisible God, and the wizards are there to remind them how; if Aeolian wizards just happen to benefit from it, well, that just proves their wisdom and the rightness of their cause.

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