Re: Zzabur and the Great Compromise

From: David Weihe <blerg2_at_...>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:45:34 -0800 (PST)

On Sun Nov 18, babeldemetr3  wrote:

> Dear Gray Sages,
> In my humble quest of enlightenment, I wonder if the famous
> Zzabur is bound by the Great Compromise.

First thing to remember is that the Great Compromise was a First and Second Council idea.  It was probably adopted as a reasonable first cut hypothesis by the God Learners.  It is NOT accepted by the Pelorians, Pelandans, East Islanders, etc., and may not be accepted as even a reasonable hypothesis by the post-GL Malkioni.  Certainly Zzabur, who is of equivalent power to many major gods, will not likely care about the musings of a bunch of barbarians trapped into worshiping his cousins who went over to the Dark Side (like Worlath, Ehilm, and Humct), let alone the krajki non-humans like the trolls.  Plus, Zzabur is a human being, just ask him (of course, whether he considers YOU non-Eranachulas to be human is another question :-) , and thus free of the Compromise.

OTOH, the trick to Glorantha is that each culture's views of reality end up producing pretty much the same results in practice.  Zzabur might not be bond by the Compromise but most of the time his actions appear such that he could be.  Major age-changing actions (e.g., Castle Blue in the early Third Age) can "violate" the Compromise by making amendments to it.

> He was able to transport Brithos into the Otherworld creating
> the Closing as a side effect in 920 ST.
> Was this act at variance with the Great Compromise or not ?

> And his wish to flood Fronela ?

YGMV again.  Actually, his wish or even plans do not violate the Compromise, any more than Niven *writing* about building time machines would violate Causality; accomplishing them might.  And if he does it while the Trolls are blocking Magasta's Pool with a giant iceberg so as to flood Genertela, it might not, at that.

BTW, that he had plans of what would happen if Fronela were flooded does not necessarily mean that he planned to do it, vs. planning what would happen if it were flooded by other actors (e.g., trolls).  Even if he later conned the other actors into doing it for or with him.  He is complicated, that way :-) .            

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