Re: Re: My AP problems

From: Hannu Kokko <Hannu.Kokko_at_...>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 17:42:14 +0300

on 1.6.2000 16:44, Richard Develyn at Richard.Develyn_at_... wrote:

> From: Hannu Kokko [mailto:Hannu.Kokko_at_...]
>

>> Well, in real life the first actor might actually have an advantage. For
>> example if I remember correctly a French Duke was assassinated so that a
>> first actor kept holding on to his sword hand while others were hacking him
>> after that. The Duke had to resort using whatever puny thing he had on the
>> other hand and was so fatally distracted and at disadvantage. He gave a

> good

>> fight, though.

>
> This simply couldn't happen in HW without some special dispensation of the
> rules. You can't disarm the Duke unless you reduce his AP down to 0 (or
> unless you allow an independant simple contest from one of the assailants).
> Once his AP are at 0, he's dead (never mind disarmed). Until his AP is 0 he
> can carry on using his sword.
>

I think this might be thought that the Assassin 1 decides to force Duke to use secondary ability by getting very,very close to him and grabbing him hand-to-hand. Duke did not have the sword out at the start of the fight. Duke struggles by using his Strength or Hand-to-hand which apparently is very much poorer than his mighty Swordmanship xw1 or whatever. Assassin continues to hold him in a lengthy fight while assassin's partners overpower the duke and someone delivers after a fight coup de grace. During the fight Duke manages to kill or wound several of the assassins by using improvised weapon on his poorer arm. IMHO this might be the way to picture what it means "to force someone to use their poorer ability". YMMV.

I think this happened in Castle Blois and the French gamers on the list know the details better than I.

--hannu