This is why only improvisational modifiers linked to the kind of running taht you are suited to can solve the problem.
> So HW doesn't determine on the 'system level'* since there is no
> Truth about who runs faster, just Contexts. Hence it is up to the
> Narrator to assign modifiers in a specific context to reflect
> Gloranthan realities. The numbers are there to give you something to
> work with.
Exactly. But it does _not_ imply that you can do superhiman things with your mundane skills.
> (This is also exactly why i have come to the conclusion that mundane
> abilities allow you to do the superhuman. Since a starting character
> who puts "run fast" as his primary ability _can_ outrun a horse
> (depending on the actual situation), then a 5w rating is in the 'low'
> superhuman range.
And I read it exactly the other way, which is that despite your higher rating, you will need imrpovisational modifiers _on your side_ to outrun the horse in an 800 metres race.
> I like Glorantha to be like this, and i don't need
> to scale mundane and magical differently. My opinion is that HW is
> designed to portray Glorantha like this. YGMV, of course, but the
> rules seem to implicitly support my view.)
The seem that way to you, the seem the other way to me (cf. the fact that lifting yourself is always resistance 20 for example...).
In another post :
> So now you say people can learn mundane abilities from Heroquesting,
> and not only mythical ones? In other messages you have said this is
> not so. How do you want to have it?
What I said in previous posts (but didn't detail this time) is that you can, IMHO, improve your mundane abilities by trying to apply what you saw during your heroquest but that this is slow and keeps your abilities mundane, or become part of the myth which requires you to succed in the quest and then gain magical abilities that allow you to be superhuman (as you are no longer a merem human but a semi-mythical hero).
While we're talking about being supported by the books, I want to point out that raising an ability (mundane) cost 1 HP (usually) and that raising an affinity (magical / mythical / superhuman) costs 3 HP (usually). So, to me, there is a clear distinction between mundane and magical, although these can be mixed in any individual giving us the magical world that we crave.
Philippe
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