Re: TR: Multiple subcult question

From: Jeff <jeff.kyer_at_...>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:18:33 -0000

> > Um, Subcults are automatically a part of whatever aspect they
belong
> > to. And if you're base ASPECT is the wrong one, then you're just
> > going to have to deal with having ineffecient magic.
>
> The way I see it, being *automatically* part of an aspect
contradicts
> with the possibility of worshipping a subcult with the "wrong"
aspect.
> Question put on hold.

Various subcults are associated with specific aspects of Orlanth (or whomever). To worship a different aspect of Orlanth through an 'inappropriate' subclt will case problems. I may have stated my answer poorly -- I think that the first subcult, whether or not it is 'inappropriate' is at 10% but we'll have to wait for Roderick to get back for a final-clarification as he's the final rules-arbiter.  

> > rules.... But joining another Aspect is, basically, another
subcult
> > (at 20%) or, if youwant, aspect + subcult = 30% and is,
effectively,
> > dual initiation.
>
> Alright - I suppose my memory might be failing me here. I'll wait
until
> I can quote pages and paragraphs. However, having read most of the
book
> once through, I'd appreciate if you'd also check the rules - paying
> 30% for aspect+subcult isn't what I remember. And it seems I'm
> not alone here. (Peter Larsen, Thom Baguley)

30% for Aspect + Subcult IS the base worship -- and it includes the cost of Communal Worship. However, Rodrerick's stated that taking another aspect, is still going to be 20% (as its not your primary aspect and then another 10% for a subcult in THAT aspect...

...which comes to 30%. Just the same as dual inititation.  

> I know being a devotee takes more time. Here I can quote official
text:
> The Thunder Rebels errata says Rurik pays 80% for:
> Devotee of Destor Adventurous
> initiate of Daylanus and of Orlanth Thunderous
> Since a devotee pays 60% (objections?)
> That leaves 20% for the additional initiations of Daylanus and OT.
> Not 30%.

True. But he's a devotee? An initiate doesn't get it that sweet, I suspect.  

> Quite clear, unless there's some weird rule saying additional
initiation
> is cheaper for devotees. I can't remember reading anything like
that.

The thing is: Its +20 for initiates to gain a subcult out of their aspect.

I'd have to check to see what Devotees get.

> Admitted, tweaking RQ has had an effect on me. I just prefer my
rules to
> be clear and universal, not full of vague exceptions. (Not a
critique,
> really - exceptions can't be avoided.)

True but I think I'd rather go with some of the more or less firm categories we have with TR rather than 5% here, 5% there.

...it would look like my timesheet at work! (3.75 hours per week to Helemakt, 11.75 to Orlanth Adventurous.... And 3.75 to Torvald Meldekbane)

Jeff

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