Re: Lunar Goddess etc

From: simon_hibbs2 <simon.hibbs_at_...>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:44:30 -0000


Many thanks to Mark and Martin. I've finaly dug up a copy of Entekosiad and it's got a lot of mythological background on Natha/JagaNatha.

Mark :

>> Sedenya, the Moon Goddess birthed by
>> the 7 Mums, is not Natha.
>
>Except, I should have added, in that overarching Lunar we-are-all-
>usness sense that also unites Rufelza, Taraltara, all the
>constituent forms of the Cyclical power and so on.

Except that Sedenya 'Is an old name known to many Dara Happans, and in general was used to describe Her in previous mythic ages'. So there's nothing new about her.

> ...Even so, there is
>something of a distinction between Rufelza and Sedenya and the
>others: the inclusion of Chaos (sorry, 'entropy'), which is *not* a
>feature of the older Lunar deities.

I can grok Rufelza (for some finite definition of grok), the Big Red One. The physical manifestation of the lunar power in the world. I can also get Taraltara, a mystic power that is not even properly a theistic goddess. Previously I imagined Sedenya in this role, and I think that was probably the intention at the time of, say, Gods of Glorantha. However what Taraltara represents is not theistic, yet is a present power that is manifest, and so needs a name of it's own.

Martin :

>She is a warrior goddess as as such the Empire is in a warlike
>phase.

Ok, I'm getting there. The Empire is inclusive, balancing the elements within itself, and so manifesting ballance to the world in a way that as never happened before. Hence the presence of Natha in the world. She is the purpose and meaning of the Imperial project. Hence she is the current aspect of the goddess. Right?

Regarding her warrior connection, JagaNatha was (allegedly) responsible for War (daxdarius) becoming a High God, and gained her place as a High God in return. This strikes me as being very apt given the necessery military expansionism of the empire in order to further the cause of ballance and harmony. However I don't find her other role as the mother of murder to be particularly reassuring, but I digress.

>Natha represents the seven cycles of the moon goddess in all
>her phases.

This is what I have trouble with, as I would have thought this would be Sedenya. Perhaps it's because she ballances all the different aspects of the goddes? She is the harmony that allows all the different aspects of the goddess to be Sedenya?

Simon Hibbs

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