Re: Re: Carrying subjecivity WAY too far

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:28:58 -0800


> Shame RR is away/busy, he's good at this.

If you say no (ducks head and blushes).

Tired, frustrated at the bull-headedness of convention-goers, but back (for a little while - got a Victorian ball to put on this coming weekend...), but I'll give it a try.

Remember that the start of all quests is the story (Orlanthi All, here, or even Yelmic All). You're not just be-bopping along on the hero plane when "something happens", you are following the path(s) laid down by your cultural/magcial hero(es), and so you'll have a good idea of what is supposed to happen. If you're following a Heropath where Orlanth raced over a mountain pass, then you and everyone in your party will have to race over a Mountain path. You & your buddies are taking the part of Orlanth (and his buddies) so are all going to see the same thing, because that what the story says you're going to see (except for those parts where the quest takes a quick left and leaves the story for a little while - the "Surprise!" portion of every heroquest).
Even if you are different magical backgrounds, you'll still see the same thing. You may see it a little differently, but you all see generally the same thing - much as you would if this wasn't a heroquest, but was just an adventure in the mundane world. This, of course, only applies to heroquests in the Heroplane, not going into the God or Spirit or Essence plane, where people have those -20 modifiers and such - perceptions via the "wrong magic" there are probabaly enough to give you a migraine (and account for at leats part of that -20...)

If you are performing a quest where Orlanth fights a Darkness Monster, and some troll is doing his own quest where Karrg beats Winter, they might end up in each other's quest (especially if they are quest-opponents, or whatever that relationship is called). Some quests are more specific about who you meet (Aroka the Dragon, Storm Bull, etc), some are more general. What happens up to the point where the two heroes (and their followers) meet is determined by their own stories - Orlanth went skipping merrily through the Enchanted Forest one day; Karrg climbed up to the Surface. At some point the narratives cross. Orlanth meets Karrg, (or Harry the Heortling meets Tim the Troll) - "Orlanth" may see a hideous, amorphous darkness monster with a thousand fanged mouthe, while "Karrg" may meet Ice Demons and a Blizzard - but *if* you could "see beneath the layers", you'd see that in this particular instance of Harry and Tim heroquesting, the Darkness Monster is Karrg, and the Winter is Orlanth. But if Hugo the Heortling went on the exact same quest, he might meet the Dark Seductress of Midnight in the place of the "Darkness Monster" and Henry the Heortling might meet the Obsidian Dragon. The Dark Seductress and the Obsidian Dragon don't represent Karrg, the three of them represent "Darkness and things that go bump in the night" to the hero being Orlanth.

RR
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