Re: Mostal is your friend.

From: Wesley Quadros <wquadros_at_...>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 07:52:56 -0700


I was thinking that this read a lot like a paranoa hand-out and then you slipped in the DDDN. Nice. :)

HeroWars_at_yahoogroups.com wrote:

>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 03:10:34 GMT
> From: "Pete McAveney" <mcaveney_at_...>
> Subject: Mostali Player Handout
>
> I'm in the middle of writing my first Hero Wars scenario, which is designed around
> a band of dwarves. Getting my players in the mood to roleplay Mostali is a
> challence, of course, so I wrote up this handout. Tell me what you think.
>
> Newbies: this document contains an unofficial and possibly heretical interpretation
> of the Mostali view of chaos. Read at risk of your own corruption.
>
> Non-newbies: Denounce me, I dare ya :)
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> Document Gold-6347653-92363
>
> Initial Briefing for COG (Cross Octum Group) Teams
>
> The Plan
>
> The world machine was damaged by the intrusion of chaos in the darkness age.
> The Decamony has drawn up a Plan for its repair (report Diamond-1-1.) This
> Plan is correct, complete, and non-contradictory. We know this to be true because
> it is asserted by report Diamond-1-1, which we know to be correct, complete,
> and non-contradictory.
>
> In its infinite wisdom the Decamony made the Plan extensible. The Plan states
> that attachments to the Plan are to be considered part of the Plan. Attachments
> to the plan have declared that all documents which refer to the plan (Diamond-1-1)
> by document number are to be considered attachments to the Plan. Attachments
> to the plan have declared that all documents must include citations of report
> Diamond-1-1 by document number.
>
> Chaos
>
> Failing to follow the plan indicates corruption by chaos. Components corrupted
> by chaos cannot be repaired; they must be removed from the world machine, and
> the materials must be recycled so that uncorrupted parts can be substituted.
>
>
> Disobedience is not allowed by the Plan, and is a demonstration of corruption
> by chaos. Statements in contradiction to the plan are a demonstration of corruption
> by chaos. Heretical beliefs are in contradiction to the plan and are a demonstration
> of corruption by chaos. Waste and duplication are in contradiction to the plan
> and are a demonstration of corruption by chaos.
>
> Personal Identification
>
> Every dwarf is assigned a unique name at birth. Non-unique names would cause
> confusion, and thus waste, and would be an instance of duplication, none of
> which are allowed under the Plan.
>
> Every dwarf is also assigned a unique identification number. This is engraved
> behind your left ear. The numbers are useful because, unlike names, they are
> unique. This prevents confusion, waste, and duplication, none of which are
> allowed under the Plan.
>
> Supervision
>
> Every worker has a supervisor and zero or more subordinates. You are required
> to execute the orders of your supervisor to the best of your ability at all
> times. The plan decrees that your supervisor will be of the same caste and
> specialty as you, and will teach you the skills necessary to fulfill your orders.
>
> In addition to your regular duties, you have been assigned to a Cross Octum
> Group (COG) team. The Plan recognizes that special tasks require cross-disciplinary
> coordination of workers in different castes and specialties. Each team is led
> by a supervisor. All team members, regardless of caste and specialty, report
> to that supervisor, who in turn reports to a Diamond caste worker.
>
> Great confusion, waste, and duplication can be created by multiple supervisors
> issuing contradictory orders to a worker. Fortunately, that situation will
> never occur because the Plan decrees that each of us has one and only one supervisor,
> so that orders are always correct and never contradictory or inconsistent.
> If such a situation existed, it would be a clear sign of corruption by chaos,
> requiring repair by recycling. Understand how the wisdom of the Plan prevents
> difficulties and helps us overcome obstacles.
>
> Defect Location and Removal
>
> All members of COG teams are also members of the Diamond Defect Denunciation
> Network. The Plan specifies the creation of this network to facilitate the
> location and repair of defects in the workforce such as heresies and corruption
> by chaos. Your assignment is to monitor your COG team for violations of the
> Plan. This organization is secret. You must not inform your fellow teammates
> that you are a member of the DDDN.
>
> Each member of the DDDN is assigned a Gold caste case officer. That case officer
> is your supervisor and you must follow the officer's instructions. You must
> report all defects you detect to your case officer, even if the defective part
> is your own supervisor.
>
> Duties and Assignments
>
> Your supervisor will inform you of your specific duties and assignments. Congratulations
> on your promotion to a COG team.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:21:07 -0700
> From: David Dunham <david_at_...>
> Subject: Re: Redalda; Tain
>
> Stacy wrote
>
> > I recall someone saying (right around the time Storm Tribe came out) that
> > Redalda is the "Vinga" of the Elmali clans -- a way for women to access
> > Elmal's powers as well as a goddess in her own right.
>
> Yes, that's how I envisioned her.
>
> John Hughes pointed out some web resources for the Tain.
>
> > Even better, many thanks John!!
> >
> > See now, Nick's way would cost..... *money*!!!!!!
>
> IIRC, the Kinsella translation keeps all the (slightly) naughty bits
> that some of the older translations don't include.
>
> (The Davidson translation of Saxo Grammaticus likewise translates
> stuff that was left in Latin in earlier translations.)
>
> In general, I think you'll enjoy in-copyright translations more.
> --
>
> David Dunham <mailto:dunham_at_...>
> Glorantha/HW/RQ page: <http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html>
> Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: 22 Sep 2001 11:24:34 +0200
> From: Bo Ros�n <bo.rosen_at_...>
> Subject: Pavic ramblings
>
> l�r 2001-09-22 klockan 01.42 skrev Nick Brooke:
>
> First off, sorry for the lack of structure here, I'm just thinking out
> loud.
>
> Jeff Kyer
>
> > >>> In addition to being half-elf, Pavis was apparently a
> > >>> hermaphrodite...
>
> The implications of that are too weird to dwell upon.
>
> "She never had a mother, so I had to be both mother and father to her."
> Pavis reveals all to Flintnail a sodden late night on the town.
>
> Nick Brooke
>
> > from this how it is that elves are breeding with humans and dwarfs in the
> > great EWF experiments: they're undifferentiated (no species, no sexes, no
> > distinctions between man and god, possible and impossible).
>
> I hadn't thought about that, guess I just wanted a little love in my
> favourite hero's life and noticed that he had at least one child, but
> found no mention of a wife.
> Speaking of love, where are the great stories, where are Beren Half-hand
> and Luthien - Tristan and Isolde ?
> Haven't I read somewhere (the original Pavis Box, lost these many years
> ago?) that Pavis married one of the priestesses from the Paps, and that
> this marriage is still enacted once a year by the respective
> priesthoods? Are there little Pavis juniors growing up in the Paps,
> assuming the rites involve sex? (that could be a fun PC to play)
>
> If I remember correctly, Pavis found some Oasis people who still had
> some connection with or magic from or whatever from the Green Age
> (Mani's people?) and either enlisted their help in creating the City or
> at least learned something from them that he used with magics from EWF.
>
> What did he do really, create a bit of local Green Age, or something
> that drew on the power of it? Perhaps the city itself was just a
> by-product of what he really did, as people needed a place to stay and
> he had these nice walls just standing there.
> Did his apotheosis and worship force him into the role of City God, one
> which he had never intended in the first place? Becoming a god would
> seem to be contrary to Green Age ideals. If this is true, could his
> original purpouse be rediscovered through his cult (supposing it is
> lost) or would the cult and/or Pavis himself be too tied his role as
> city god?
> Am I making sense at all?
>
> > At last Convulsion, I suggested that the Daughters of Pavis (title for male
> > priests) had some weird Green Age sexual meaning -- hope you enjoy this!
>
> Fun idea, but I'm not sure I want _everything_ in Glorantha to be weird
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Bo
>
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