Re: Initiation - Contests and Failure

From: Guy Hoyle <guy.hoyle_at_FR178K-CQ0pkZdUui0q0tSScAWnQ7n5Qr5JZGhdddos0Sal67sdR6hox9QZpui4GZx>
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 01:28:52 -0500


Surely "all Orlanthi" means the Orlanthi all, app. 85 %?

On 5/5/09, L C <lightcastle_at_uVczoz0Jqmu9BltJKaTZd3YlKaxV89iq2Acls03QQoRCiZeGqNDxPXqO9nLGVnH9FCCDDdNTSva_6uR7Vhyjng.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> There's some good debate here about the failure, but then the whole "All
> Orlanthi Initiate" has bothered me for some time.
> (Unless it is "All Sartarites initiate", which is still a problem to me.)
>
> I think once I realized that the "30% commitment level" was not the
> "minor magic" that the naming of initiate to devotee inadvertently led
> me to, it struck me that this meant every Orlanthi adult is basically
> equivalent to a wizard.
>
> That seemed crazy to me.
>
> I somewhat got around it in my head by making it that most adults
> initiate, get one affinity they never raise and basically become lay
> members.
>
> It still seemed strange to me, since it also means that every character
> basically goes on HeroQuests, which makes them seem.... too mundane to
> me. Of course, I later found out that Orlanthi go on HeroQuests every
> holy day, during sacred time, every time they learn a feat, the two
> initiations they go through, becoming an adult, etc. So really,
> HeroQuests are banal and everyday for Orlanthi.
>
> That never sat well with me, as I thought HeroQuests were supposed to be
> dangerous and special. I guess the answer is that "well known"
> heroquests are very safe. Or, that a part of Orlanthi fatalism is that
> in order to be a culture with more magicians than anyone else on
> Glorantha, they sacrifice a large proportion of their children who never
> come back from the adulthood rites.
>
> Now, to get back to the original question, I also think putting fixed
> numbers on it seems out of whack with the HQ2 design. I haven't seen how
> it is actually implemented, though, so I can't say for sure. I agree
> with those who have said that whether or not it is a story point has a
> lot to do with the nature of the story you are telling. That is
> certainly how I would do it.
>
> Best,
> L. Castellucci
>
           

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