Andrew E. Larsen
On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:16 PM, David Scott <sciencefish_at_...> wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2013, at 16:35, Glass <glass_at_...> wrote:
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> > So the spirit societies, maybe a shift toward Storm Bull. Once in awhile history produces a Jaldon-like figure and Jaldon himself has been institutionalized as his own cult. Maybe a shift toward Foundchild if your herds have been decimated or stolen and you never manage to get them back, because now you're not a herder, you're a hunter or you're dead. Maybe the infamous Cannibal Cult if things get bad enough.
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> The Praxian Tradition (pantheon) has a very clear tiering of deities / spirits / societies to me.
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> The Great Three - the cornerstones of society - Waha (for men), Eiritha (for women), Storm Bull (for both). Most are followers of one of these.
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> The First Friends - they provide skills that fill specialist needs not available to the Great Three - Foundchild (for men), Helpwoman (for women), Daka Fal (for both). Some are followers of these, they provide an outlet for those that don't fit in above.
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> Beneath these are a number much smaller spirits / societies for specialists, eg - Sky, Fire, Dark, Air, Moon, Water based societies. Few are followers of these, they provide an outlet for those that don't fit in above.
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> Jaldon fits in as a Hero cult of Waha.
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> On top of this are the Invader cults as well.
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> Too much of a shift in this balance will cause society to wobble, although I can understand a moves towards and away from Storm Bull. I don't think the first friends and the smaller societies can get enough followers to really alter the basic balance much. Personally, I think the Waha not being so popular is not really ever going to happen and ignore that old piece of info. There was probably also a big increase in Humakt membership when the cult first appeared in the First Age as he fulfilled a need. His membership may well have eaten into the followers of Storm Bull and Waha, but again, too many and society is going to wobble. I can't see the Eirithans standing for that - where is our meat, where is our bride price, etc.
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> > Ronance is out there and can attract worship within the historical era Nomad Gods emulates. So can the mysterious "Good Shepherd," who both suggests that the tribal mix we have now is not what they had at the Dawn and represents a significant alternative to the Waha food chain. (But he's probably more of an oasis figure if he even still exists in Our Glorantha.)
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> Ronance and the Good Shepard are counted as Earth spirits at the Paps (Nomad Gods and Cults of Prax). They are part of the remnant Earth Religion at the paps, there not out in the general nomad population. They fit in to Eiritha at the Paps' specialist spirits (bottom tier).
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> > Side note on the Father of Independents: is he mostly another mask of Waha for losers or the outward face of an entirely different Praxian religious complex that might even "occasionally" prove "more popular among the peoples?"
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> The Father of Independents is another Earth spirit at the Paps, not out with the nomads, as above.
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> > Where is Daka Fal in all this?
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> Daka Fal provides the bridge to the spirit world and the ancestors.
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