> 2. How long do two legged Telmori live ?
Average for very primitive humans is about 35, isn't it?
And on the Flame:
I said:
> I think geting the Flame to respond to you in some way is a part of
> the Crown Test.
And Thomas:
> Yes, I would think so, I just wonder who started this custom.
Sorry, don't know. Saronil was presented to the people by his father,
either just before or just after the Flame was lit depending on which
account you believe. Salinarg had trouble with the thing nearly going out
at his coronation. We don't seem to have accounts of any coronations in
between.
And of my idea that the SLBQ was used to rescue Sartar's spirit:
> But, according to KoS the ritual was spoiled or are you speaking of
> another LBQ ?
No, that's the one. It's only Denseros saying "the effects of the spell
were spoilt" - and this is the guy who tries to pretend she died
permanently at Old Top and never lit the Flame. I agree that she took a
lot of damage, but that can be accepted as a fair price to pay for
success. Even if you want each individual statement Denseros makes to be
literally true (for Truthspeaker witnesses), this sentence could have
been referring to a "spell" as it says, not the LBQ. In fact, my guess
would be that it was a healing spell. She was wounded, remember? What do
you bet it was one of those un-healable ones?
And of Kallyr in person:
> Again I disagree, she is a better warrior though an unlucky (Battle of
> Queens) than HQer.
Opinions are bound to differ, so no arguments.
> But what I see as her achievement is to unity of the tribes. She was
> the one who forged Sartar again.
Agreed. Her abilities really aren't important, it's the way she inspired
people to follow her that matters. And the fact that she kept trying
after so many defeats.
Swords:
> Again you win, the Flame burned brightly after Argrath's coronation.
According to Denseros: and he was really describing Kallyr lighting the
Flame. If you want the Flame to go out as Garrath is crowned (in
disgust?), and have him make a sword out of the brazier, I won't argue.
> But at last Argrath's sword is something special since it is
> mentioned in KoS p.156 : "Argrath stood tall, holding aloft his sacret
> sword,and prayed to Orlanth..."
I'm not convinced that was the same sword - in fact, I'm not convinced
that was the same Argrath. I think the sword described in the WBRM notes
(and presumably in DP) is from when he was ruling, so it's later than
1630. But that's only a guess.
> "Historians from England will say I'm a liar, but history is written
> by those who've hanged heroes." Robert the Bruce
Or those working for them - like Denseros. Anyone with a .sig like that
shouldn't be taken in!
BTW, do you have any ideas what Argrath's quarrel with the Telmori was? And, come to that, which Argrath it was? I've heard theories, but you seem to have studied the Telmori in more detail that the rest of us.
Jane Williams jane_at_williams.nildram.co.ukhttp://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~janewill/gloranth/index.shtml
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