Doburdon

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_voyager.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:43:34 +1300 (NZDT)


Keith Nellist:

Me>> But the cult of Yelmalio/Daysenervus was established in Nysalor's
>> Time. Therefore he can't have anything to do with the Compromise!
  

>the "reason for continued existence" is CoP for Yelmalio is because of "sacred
>pacts signed in mythical times wherein Orlanth and Yelm grudgingly admitted
>each other's right to live. The pact allowed certain minor air gods to be
>worshipped in sky god territory and, conversely, some minor sky gods represent
>their element within storms. Such balance is, after all, necessary to maintain
>the cosmos."

This is an Orlanthi view. The Pelorians do not accept to such a notion and you will note that Dorbudron was worshipped in Peloria when Yelmalio aka Daysenervus was not in existance. Therefore he cannot be the counterpart of Yelmalio. Furthermore the compromise does not specify that the Gods have to be worshipped in a particular manner which you seem to be implying (ie if Yelmalio is a mystic sun then there must be a mystic storm cult in Peloria to 'balance').

>> Doburdon is a god of ancient antiquity and has little to do with
>> mysticism, according to Enclosure #1. This states that Doburdon is
>> worshipped as part of the Goddess Entekos whose cult is sacrificial,
>> not mystical.

>I am not worried by your argument on this one, taking a subcult of Entekos and
>saying that it isn't mystical because Entekos isn't mystical also doesn't
>stack up. "Mystical" and "Sacrificial" being simply labels for types of
>worship. There being more than one way of skinning a rabbit I believe there is
>more than one way to worship a deity.

Perhaps you can point out where a subcult of a cult has a radically different worship style to the cult?

>No one suggested that Yelmalio was a mystic cult until about a week ago.

So? You replied to this with an idea that Doburdon was a mystic storm cult. In support of this, you gave a theory about the Gods Wall to support this and also said it was necesary for the compromise. I am taking issue with these statements.

>Also, as Peter has said, a cult survives
>better if it gives reasonable powers, and mysticism surely gives no powers in
>the "world of being" unless the mystic succumbs to temptation. A mystic cult
>of Doburdon would therefore need to be found within a more
>approachable/undersandable deity, such as Entekos.

Why? Yelmalio is a mystic cult (of sorts) and does not need to be found within a more approachable/understandable deity. If you look at Enclouse #1, you will find there are a whole stack of mystical cults. To wit, they are: Aronius Jaranthir, Dayzatar, Idovanus, Jernotio, Katalyo, Rashorana, Tareltara, Zaytenera. None of them need the crutch of being approachable within a more understandable diety. Hence I feel it is weak to suggest that Doburdon must need one.

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