BS>> If participating in
>> the 'proper rituals', and 'living correctly' keeps you from ever aging,
>> has magic or a spell been used?
>I believe there's a distinction: it is a magical effect, but no spell
>has been used. For example, there's no spell to dispel.
>(I believe that most of the Malkioni Peter Metcalfe mentioned achieve
>immortality by spells. A few might be heroes, and unaging by
>completing the appropriate quest.)
I do not believe the Malkioni that I mentioned (to wit: Theoblanc, Gundreken, Gaiseron) use immortality spells as you have defined them.
The Rokari are explicitly stated in the Genertela Book to contain lords and wizards who have extended life-spans due to their piety, not spells. They even have a sound theological justification for this and it isn't "We're imitating Brithini, we are" but "The World corrupts and only by remaining true can we resist it from corrupting our souls - certain among us are so pure that they also resist bodily corruption". I prefer not to see long-lived pious Rokari denied on the grounds that it's proof of the truth of Rokarism.
The Greatest Loskalmi do not need immortality spells as their long lives are a side-effect of their Idealism. Their Kingdom takes great care in ensuring they look and act like Ideal Rulers, Generals and Wizards so that with the appropiate rituals to manifest the Ideal World into this one, they become Ideal Rulers etc. They could live forever but I think they place other powers more useful to discharging their duties first and so age slowly and gracefully in an Ideal sort of way.
I should caution that because the Greatest Loskalmi act as Ideal Loskalmi, does not mean that all of their actions and decisions are necessarily the best ones - they are what the Loskalmi consider the Ideal ones, something slightly different and perhaps fatally so.
The Loskalmi long life certainly wasn't due to Heroquesting as they've only discovered that tool recently.
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