Occurance of alteration between nearer areas is harder than farther area communication because Enough farther distance don't need to change their neighbor Big Guy or Thing's name, and you can use their names as those stand.
if you try to spell as local charactrisitic, you should spell Roma as Rome, Bayern as Bavalia, Al'Iskandalia as Alexandria, etc...
BTW, Charles in English , Karl in Germany..... personal Name have many local colors in each country:
Europeans have middle names (I have some difficulty to imagine having MD,
but I guessed
most of G digesters have MD and use shortened name like from Nicholus to
Nick, from Alexander to Alex.... )
if you were born in Medieval and poor, you may have only one personal name.
I think this condition is same in many culture.
IMO, in orlanthi culture,
I like Irish Culture for their exoticism, legend of Red Ox, Cu Churainn and
Fin McChuhail
Irish Celtic True Name idea (Arsula Le Guin "Ged series" adopted this idea)
has magical power
which made some medium of magic and you should teach your name only to most
trustful men: What area of Orlanthi keep same like tradition?
Scandinavian was more realistic, and used only one who son of -.... Mac-, (Scottish, but they are Celt...), -son, ditter (Scandinavian) as Romans.
Roman Nobility have three names: personal, family, and tribe Julius: birth from tribe of Julius and family of caesar. and Octavianus: Small Eighth Boy changed as soon as he could in ascending to high position.
David Cake
>Qin Shuanghi,
Shi-huang-di: is his sacred name (which means First Emperor) Chinese Emperor had two names before death (hui) and after death (shi) he (Ying Zheng is his true name, but if you were his subject and called his truename openly, you will be executed.) was Western Archlord on Warring States Period (5C-3C) and unified "First China" with continuous campaign. (he is Shi-Kou-Tei, Ei-Sei in japanese pronunciation.)
Chinese Ancient Nobility has many names: childname, adultname(zi) , and
familyname,
sacred name after Death(shi) and true name.
FREX, General Yue Fei in south Sung dynasty has sacred name (as Taoism God)
Zhong Wu (means faithful warrior) and adultname Fu Ju.
In contrary, First Emperor of Han Dynasty was most poor birth, and his name
Ji means
fourth boy and his adultname in historical document Bang means "man of
village".
later his sacred name become "Gao Zu" means High Elder Ancestor of Han
Dynasty: many founder of later dynasty adopt this name as his own Shi.
and modern Russians?
I now change my condition to Scavenger Hyena (Hope Garseni don't see me) and use form of Red tapeworm in Greg Stafford work:
How Mormon influence infiltrate to American pop culture? (AFAIK, Orson Scott Card and Some TSR literacies have strong influence.)
Jewish culture...
I think sometimes strong minority gained authority over society like modern
India Sikhist, but they are still minority in culture.
IMO, some strong anti-TSR structure has formed, as Munchkin document hinted...who hated work of TSR and Dungeons &Dragons? and how?
Now I want to confuse Gloranthan structure:
Westerners in RW wants dehumanized act of humanized supreme being (like
trinity)
Easterners in RW wants humanized act of dehumanized supreme being (samsara)
both are mystery beyond logic.
Malkioni caste idea of Greg Stafford influenced by Indian Varna structure
before Tantrism.
Difference of Indian Culture and Chinese Culture is? Rationalism? or
Ancestor Worship?
(If you believe Sansara, Ancestor worship will die unless you can believe
existence of plural souls.)
Was Prince Bertalor: who studied metal in Elder Secrets of Glorantha (Prince of Fromalwal) same man who opened First Malkioni council? Snake leg: Jewish Sabaot? Athenean Erictonios? or Chinese Elder Deities?
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:19 GMT
>From: "Ilav Topix" <ilavtopix_at_hotmail.com>
>Subject: Shogun
>I, as a non-japanese, always figured the Shogun as a sort of
First-Minister,
>Vizir, Richelieu, Grey Eminence.
>I think that Bellex Maximus could play this role, as Terra said, but even
>(in Nick Brooke's vision) the Provincial Overseer could. I think that the
>problem of finding counterparts between western history, japanese customs
>and Glorantha (which is based on western biases ideas), relies much on the
>idea of oligarchy.
and Bellex Maximus Parg Ilisi abused his power on Eol, Twice Blessed in
Redline History
(Nick Brooke mentioned in his HP)
>Since the ancient Greece, western potentates were ruled by Kings aided in
>much cases by councils of experts, and in some cases (as the above I
>reported) the most expert had more power than the King.
>I suppose (but I don't really know) that in Nipponic Tradition this is
>unconceivable (sp?). Not many men with powers, but a rigid hierarchy with
>one-way chain of command: the generals/ministers report to the shogun who
>reports to the Emperor. In no way a general could report directly to the
>Emperor, unless the Shogun is dead: this fact would be equivalent to a
>full-size rebellion (and to a quite heretic act). Western history (and
>actual ways of thinking, I daresay) is full of these exemples: chains of
>command, hiearchies, powers are divided among many men and institutions.
>This ensures more disorder but much more flexibility...
I agree, but please let me comment:
Japanese Tennou court structure has long traditon as Dara Happan imperial
structure
(Greg Stafford description in later part of FS Yelmic work), and conceived
many changes in history, many noble house thrived in this structure (most
was Fujiwara House) in Nara and Heian Period (8-12C), they little by little
have shaved role of imperial power and gained much and maternal imperial
relative
: some emperors want practical power and dethroned himself, became
ex-buddhism priest-emperor (some historians used European Catholic
Ecclesiarch position as same word "Houou" but condition is utterly
different, you can call the bird "turkey", but this bird came from
America...not Turk.) , because already role of emperors was limited as
national shaman.
the Age Samurai class gained power over imperial court is after this
condition...
so already "Rebellion" has no mean except other overlords wanted using this
term.
Sometimes Strong personality crowned and gained throne like Emperor Godaigo
circa Asikaga Shogunate, but they can never ignore existence of nobility and
samurai class, and many failed in gaining physical power.
I don't want to describe National-Shintoism here, this condition is current status from 19C influenced by Confucianism and Anti-Buddhism, and bad memory still bothers some part of me...I' m coward for current history to use as mere material, still many people remain memory. I agree Tennou regained some strong authority over nation once more.
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