please think about Relic: What is this? At least this is more than Black Stone of Al Kaba. I think RW fundamental Theists revered Sense of Ear Hearing, Singing, Sacred Choir as Protestantism, Muslim instead of Sense of Eye. Please read Max Weber "Religion of Judea": he said Ancient Age Prophets are auditory hallucinationaries, not Visionary. Music is not Idol in some sense.
Otherworldly Perspective
Alfred Bester: Tiger! Tiger! Wirepuller's view
Mr. Trotsky (Dead God Name of Red Army):
>Yes, indeedy, there are inhabitants. But not very many of them,
>according to the discussions I've had concerning the Otherworld section of
>Anaxial's Record. And most of them are apparently pretty freakin' weird...
><<so it seems that the God Learner description of the Spirit Plane as a
>"featureless grey fog" has wandered in somewhere in the above
description.>>
> Could well be I misunderstood that bit of it - it wasn't my primary
>concern at the time!
Anaxial Roster of course I don't see, But IMHO, God Plane order Conjunction is whether Great Crack or Hard Slope between Barbarian Belt and Malkioni.
"I'm interested in Now Hot Border of Fronelan-Carmania". Difference between Christianism (Islamism) and Malkionism: Many Felster Eclecticians (Gene Wolfe's Artificial Word?) cannot delete repeatedly Enforcers' Heroplane. Today Rokali, Tomorrow Stygian.
Malkioni Constallations and Stars:
Ehilm: Sun, False God (Once Mortal)
Worlath: Broken Ring, FG
Humct: Sword Stars Constallation, FG
Waertag: Boat Star
Arkat: Dove Constallation, Dark Prophet Emperor
Yelorna: only Ralios, Lightfore
Imagination strikes Sacred Greggism? :
Peter Metcalph:
>>Simply because the Rathori are still Hsunchen and view the formations
>>of the civilized people as an act of madness that was invented by the
>>Trickster.
Martin Laurie:
>Who says formations are the result of "civilised" people? There are
>countless RW and Gloranthan examples of barbarians forming tight
formations.
>Even chaos managed this on occasion! I think it would be odd indeed if the
>Rathori were somehow immune to the evolution of military tactics.
If I can use Socratic Dialectic:
What is Civilization? How we can get Enough Power? Or how we are fated as it
is? Hen or Egg? What is Most Civilized Gloranthan Culture other than like
Trollish Uz Supersonic Culture? Magical World affords Extreme. And almost
everything is possible if we can operate Resources.
Nick Brooke?:
>>To pull a quick Metcalfe, that is the reason that when I invented
Carmanian
>>Dualism I wrote it up the way I did. To be told today that the back-story
I
>>devised is no longer necessary because Carmanos the Lawgiver, Son of the
>>Lake, the founder of the Carmanian Dualist Church -- by my hand -- had a
>>religion which was "based on the Romanakrin wisdom which defined Idovanus"
>>(and which owed nothing to Fronelan Malkionism)
Martin Laurie:
>Gregs piece on sorcery in Enclosure 1 states that Karmanos, the Magi and
>Viziers defined Fronelan Malkonism as Fronalko, the evil sorcerer. The
>Romanakrin wisdom, as stated in Gregs writing, was a definition of Idovanus
>and a redefiition of what was not Idovanus and therefore "evil".
IMO, Romanakrin Idea is fundamentally AntiGodlearnism Fronalakino and disdained Mandane World Tendency to That Age: Syranthir Sironder Anabasis. Easternish (Gnosticism) (Disdain to flesh as Roman Catholic?) appeared, Carmanos arranged this Idea to Zoroasterish Dualism once more. (AFAIK Enclosure 1 description)
Manichaesm is not Zoroasternism.
>>The laws of Carmanos showed the Magi how to determine if a god should
>receive >worship. The need to codify this increased because the Carmanians
>were now >overlords of a land with an unfamiliar mythic landscape. They had
>to sort out the >new cast of characters.
>I agree with this as well. I do not think that Gregs view is incompatible
>with yours. Consider the clarification of sorcery. The defining of evil
>sorcery as Fronalko was simply the Carmanians way of defining what was bad
>about the faiths they'd left behind. The Romanakrin wisdom would then be a
>logical step in the thinking of the Carmanians as they struggled with their
>beliefs and tried to clarify them. As a result of this Karmanos, being
born
>of Pelanda and the new arrivals was ideally suited to unify the two. Up
till
>that point the codification, as you say, of the faith, did not exist, hence
>the religion itself did not exist, which is pretty much my point.
I think pro-Arkat sect, anti-Lunar sect is still survives as anti-Arkat,
proLunar-Nysalorian and they can become Eclecticians as illumination idea
gives them such ability to ignore Will of Gods. Some Nysalorian can cancel
Magical circumstance even as nature of Law. Lie and Truth dualism and Light
and Darkness dualism intermingled. Mysticism and Logic, Spirit and Mind
crash in Middle of Carmania.
I think Talor (he was once dead as Arkat, rescued by lightbringer quest)
was once friend of Harmast, and betrayed this alligiance as Arkat did, (or
more worsely broke friendship and killed Harmast!) I cannot harmonize
Talor's crazy laughing image to feudal courtesy of Europian Knightship.
Sincerely:
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