Red Emperor and Parts

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_bigfoot.com>
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 20:11:50 +1200


Martin Laurie

>To the DHs, they would not equate his role as head of the DH
>church with his role as TeeloNorri or Verithurusa which the
>Lunar do. They would be insulted to be told by a mystical
>view that those parts were the same.

The Red Emperor has no Verithurusa portion and it is impossible for him to have such because the available slot is already used up by Antirius. No lunar mystic would claim Antirius and Verithurusa are the same because those are observable portions, not transcendent ones. It is not necessary for the Emperor to have a Verithurusa portion any more than the Goddess needs an Antirius portion.

> >But thats not what the 7 parts doctrine means.

>I would contend that you are right, but from a succession POV,
>the parts of the Emperor are also his priestly duties, rituals
>and obligations as the head of the cults and groups he is supposed
>to rule as head of state.

These things are not parts of the Emperor. Parts has a specific meaning in Pelorian cosmology that doesn't warrant tacking on political and religious roles. Otherwise every man and his proxy could be said to have a gazillion Parts.

>Parts list

>Takenegi - his singular self, bereft of all roles and positions,
>he still exists as a being.

It's still rather unclear as to whether you understand the concept of a TakenEgi Great Self.

>Red Emperor - his Antirius right to rule.

As explicitly stated in the Fortunate Succession.

>All the Yelmic parts

No. Antirius is the only one that he really needs. He cannot acquire the Shape Portion because that means he has to turn into a glowing ball of fire. To acquire other Yelmic portions is likely to be a waste of Parts as it would prevent him from acquiring an Oroypsus portion so that he can be a drunkard par excellence.

>To gain Bijiif for example, I belive the Emperor has to go to
>Alkoth and take part on the death of Yelm. I don't think many
>masks have done this.

In which case, it is not an essential Part of TakenEgi, but rather one of the mask's Parts.

>Head of the Rifelzan Church. Prove that you are her son. This
>one is easy for him.

This is not a Part. This automatically follows from demonstrating that you are TakenEgi (or at least claiming to be in Artifex's case).

>Head of the Nathan church and ALL its aspects.

Again, this is not a Part for similar reasons.

>Padishah of Carmania

The Carmanians are intruders and their highest magics do not use Pelorian soul concepts. Hence there is no Part that they must have to become Shah.

I _suspect_ given the origins of Carmanos himself, that the position of Shah uses the magics of the Blue King (save that Idovanus blesses him instead of Ganesatarus).

>Vrimak of Rinliddi
>Snake of Darjiin

Being the Emperor automatically confers sovereignty over both Rinliddi and Darjiin.

For Rinliddi, you only have to look at the GRAY p97 to see the Bright Eagle Lord obeying the Emperor for "though of bestial origin, the Emperor was rightly anointed by star and sun;...". If the Paradisal Aviator were to return today, he would be likewise subject to the Red Emperor's will.

When the Darjiinians revolt, they appoint their own Emperor. He would most probably be a Manimati, not a high priest of Kotor the Black Snake as that is only a fighting god whereas Manimat is the nearest thing the Darjiinians have to a ruling god.

Hence there is no need for a Mask to integrate Vrimak or Manimat into himself to rule those places. All he has to do, like the Dara Happan Emperors before him, is to demonstrate his Antirian nature.

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