Malkionism before Time

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_bigfoot.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:50:40 +1200


Joerg Baumgartner

>Me>I prefer to
> >think of Froalar as being invited to rule a pre-existing
> >city-state and he took his household along with him. Reasons
> >for a vacancy shouldn't be hard to come by.

>Renaming it in the course? I doubt there was a pre-existing
>city-state named Frowal

Could have been named after him later in the fullness of time. It was originally called the City of the Golden Gates and calling it Froalar's city after his apotheosis seems natural to me.

>Renaming a city entirely seems to be fairly rare.

As well as the already mentioned Constantinople, there also is Yathrib/Medina (the city of the Prophet), at least one Alexandria and Commodopolis.

> >>I'd include Ralios as well. The Estali earth cult (and society) and
> >>the Dawn Age Seshnegi "cult" of Likita are too similar (and too
> >>different from anything Heortling/Vingkotling or Pelorian).

> >[Estali and Likita are] not really evidence of a Malkioni
> >civilization [in Ralios] since they don't have earth goddesses.

>A lot of Malkioni settlers in southwestern Genertela seem to
>have had them in some way or another.

Which is a result of the Great Error and an adoption of native pagan ways. You can even find similar practices in Coastal Fronela at this time.

>Whether this is a consequence of Hrestol's and
>Froalar's quests I cannot say,

It started in the Storm Age and was well established at the Dawn. It wasn't eradicated from the core Malkioni Lands of Loskalm and Seshnela until the advent of the Abiding Book (the True Hrestoli Way merely removed the pagan priesthood as political institutions).

>but even the Ingareens of God Forgot acknowledge Asrelia/Esrola
>as "Our Lady Who Giveth And Taketh Away" in Casino Town.

They may acknowledge that she exists (and it is not necessary forbidden for Brithini types to admit the existence of Gods and Spirits), but I don't think they worship her. Rather she's patronized by the gamblers of that city. I have the feeling that the Priesthood are in cahoots with the God Forgotten and bestow worthless blessings and split the proceeds of donations with the Talar of Casino Town in return for being the only luck temple permitted to remain there.

> >I think the people who lived there (the Tadeniti, I think,
> >and famous for writing), were enslaved by the Mostali and
> >marched over to Slon.

>So the human slave population of Slon is (or was, originally)
>of Wareran race, and unrelated to the Agimori-like Dinosaur
>Hsunchen of inland Slon?

Some mixing in since their enslavement, I suppose.

>Greg's triangular maps of the West, shown at Tentacles '99. They had
>the spike at the eastern point, and showed two of the six original
>Logician peoples inhabiting this area. The Logicians of Pelanda
>actually left the original lands of Logic, whereas Seshnela, Akem
>in Fronela and (at least western) Ralios would have been part of
>them.

The Pelandan Logicians didn't leave until the Flood, after the Land of Logic had been marred. The first to leave were the Vadeli who reached Pamaltela.

> >My understanding is that the Kachasti
> >speakers inhabited the coastline of Genertela as part of
> >the Speaking Tour. I don't know anything about them being
> >lost and being rediscovered as hsunchen.

>The map I have seen had them inhabiting the entire triangle
>section northwest of the spike. Greg said something about
>them being lost to the Westerners during the Darkness.

Well the Glorantha Intro (p19) does speak of "religionists in Seshnela and prophet worshippers in Loskalm" sending energy and concentration to aid Zzabur's Great Spell so I'll hazard a guess that some contact was maintained and the coastal communities kept their Malkioni ways alive.

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