Re: Trolls in HW

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From: Dr Mark Galeotti <m.galeotti_at_his.keele.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:27:09 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Peter, I take your point about mixing theism and animism, although given that ancestry is such an important part of uz culture and a rather more direct one than simply knowing your lineage, I would imagine that even 'civilised' trolls would not cut themselves off from this contact.

Of course, it belatedly occurs to me that there need not be any animism/theism conflict here. The spirits of uz ancestors will be not in the Spirit World but KL's Underworld - in the God World. This is the problem with the world 'spirit', in that it now comes with specific and rather rigid implications. Maybe we can call these 'troll shadows'? To contact them, an uz theist 'simply' needs to penetrate into the God World far enough that her ancestors can hear her and come and meet her. So it would be a ritual, with the aimbeing not to penetrate full the Otherworld barrier to the Underworld (that would make it too difficult) but get far enough to call your ancestors' shadows (2w2? - remember, this will generally be a ritual with supporters).

Bye,

Mark